Idle Hunting on M12
Idle Hunting on M12
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GTSnooze

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256 posts

225 months

Sunday 6th January 2008
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Has anyone experienced this on their Noble.

Im looking at a 3R and have noticed that when I pull the car up after a run, the revs are hunting from between 800 and 1300 rpm at idling.

Is this a normal Noble trait and if so is there an easy fix. Or perhaps is this indicative of something more sinister?? Don't want to end up buying a problem car...

Would welcome any feedback - Cheers guys.

Dan

Twerlie

1,682 posts

296 months

Sunday 6th January 2008
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It could mean that the throttle body and butterfly needs cleaning?

AMG Merc

11,955 posts

282 months

Sunday 6th January 2008
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Twerlie said:
It could mean that the throttle body and butterfly needs cleaning?
Only clean the throttle butterly valve if it looks grubby and/or the car is high mileage - I did mine after comments here and regret it as now my cold idle has permantly increased. Cleaning can strip away a laquer on the valve - although this presents no problems (apart from the noiser startup).

Joust mentioned a rubber air pipe somewhere that works loose amd can cause this sympton?! scratchchin

sean_goodman

536 posts

232 months

Sunday 6th January 2008
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i tried all the things above and didnt solve mine.

got hold of the noble software, put in on my laptop connected up and did an idle reset, sorted the problem perfectly.

just remembered i had a pc crash not so long ago and lost the software, cant remember where i got it from now but i thing i might have been off noble parts

sjc

16,399 posts

299 months

Sunday 6th January 2008
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GTSnooze said:
Has anyone experienced this on their Noble.

Im looking at a 3R and have noticed that when I pull the car up after a run, the revs are hunting from between 800 and 1300 rpm at idling.

Is this a normal Noble trait and if so is there an easy fix. Or perhaps is this indicative of something more sinister?? Don't want to end up buying a problem car...

Would welcome any feedback - Cheers guys.

Dan
Wouldn't have thought it was too much to worry about, happened a couple of times on my previous 3R, and was always a quick fix at Noble London. Might be worth calling them and talking to Skippy the mechanic there, he'll be able to throw some light on it I'm sure.

JLSELAN

405 posts

262 months

Sunday 6th January 2008
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This is a pretty common problem if the base idle speed is not close enough to the 850 rpm set point. Basically, the ECU is trying to keep the idle close to the set point but the throttle position is off (high or low) due to missadjustment and the idle speed fluctuates as the ECU "looks for" the correct setting. As mentioned, adjusting the idle and using the "reset adaptive maps" on the diagnostic software should sort it out.
BTW, the permanent fix is an ECU reflash that includes a new idle strategy developed in the U.S.

sean_goodman

536 posts

232 months

Sunday 6th January 2008
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can anybody point me to where i can refind the software

ok found it now lol

Edited by sean_goodman on Sunday 6th January 19:33

gaz 7404

326 posts

234 months

Sunday 6th January 2008
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What is the correct rpm for idle?

joust

14,622 posts

288 months

Sunday 6th January 2008
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One other thing is that it can indicate either a lamda sensor on the way out, or more likely a leak in the manifold/turbo joints. I've had this ~3 times now.

Finally, also check your sparkplugs condition and gaps. As the idle isn't "closed" small variations can make this happen.

J

GTSnooze

Original Poster:

256 posts

225 months

Sunday 6th January 2008
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sjc said:
GTSnooze said:
Has anyone experienced this on their Noble.

Im looking at a 3R and have noticed that when I pull the car up after a run, the revs are hunting from between 800 and 1300 rpm at idling.

Is this a normal Noble trait and if so is there an easy fix. Or perhaps is this indicative of something more sinister?? Don't want to end up buying a problem car...

Would welcome any feedback - Cheers guys.

Dan
Wouldn't have thought it was too much to worry about, happened a couple of times on my previous 3R, and was always a quick fix at Noble London. Might be worth calling them and talking to Skippy the mechanic there, he'll be able to throw some light on it I'm sure.
Thanks sjc, I'll give Skippy a call tomorrow.

gaz 7404

326 posts

234 months

Sunday 6th January 2008
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my 3R doesnt hunt but does tick over at 1000rpm is this too high?

JLSELAN

405 posts

262 months

Sunday 6th January 2008
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Forgot to mention. The reading on the car's tach is pretty un-reliable at low rpm, so it's best to get a digital read-out (like the one provided by the diagnostics software) for setting idle speed.

Biggriff

2,312 posts

313 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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mail me Sean and I will give you the link

sean_goodman

536 posts

232 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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Biggriff said:
mail me Sean and I will give you the link
cheers mate, found it again now

T&T

107 posts

238 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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Whilst looking for mine last year , I drove a 3r with very similar symptoms. From cold to warm it was fine , but after a good thrash it would hunt. I removed the oil filler cap , and the crank was being pressurised. The dealer tried the "they all do that sir" line , whereby I lost interest immediately and went and got one elsewhere,which funnily enough didn't(do that!). It could have been a blocked breather or more serious, who knows without a full inspection.

It could be one many things , but I found the price is pretty much fixed for any of these cars , so you might as well shop around for one that's either right form the Start , or the seller will sort before you buy.

All IMHO obviously.

cheers