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TheCaseAce

700 posts

241 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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Nice.

If you want my opinion... they start off pretty good... and get worse!

Very very hard to take pictures in a dark church, in the evening, without a flash or a tripod. They've not come out that well, I don't think. Sorry about that! biggrin

The top few landscapes are much better - they could do with some post processing to punch them up though. More saturation, a bit lighter perhaps?

Blukoo

3,812 posts

227 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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Love the first pic.

A lot of the others have a lot of potential, and with a bit of photoshop work could look a little better. Just my opinion though.

Hope you don't mind, but i tinkered with one of the pics just to show you what i mean. Hope you don't mind.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5836/lanscapepq...

Keep up the good work.

Edited by Blukoo on Monday 7th January 12:44

Fetchez la vache

5,910 posts

244 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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Blukoo said:
Love the first pic.

A lot of the others have a lot of potential, and with a bit of photoshop work could look a little better. Just my opinion though.

Hope you don't mind, but i tinkered with one of the pics just to show you what i mean. Hope you don't mind.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5836/lanscapepq...

Keep up the good work.

Edited by Blukoo on Monday 7th January 12:44
Looks good Murray.
Curves & contrast, or more to it?

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

240 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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where abouts were they? The road shot reminds me of the huddersfield to glossop road

Blukoo

3,812 posts

227 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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Fetchez la vache said:
Looks good Murray.
Curves & contrast, or more to it?
Lightened some areas by going to Image > Adjustments > Shadow/Highlights, then i increased constast and saturation to intensify the colour. Think i changed the hue of the sky a little bit too.

A lot of people don't agree with improving pictures to that degree with photoshop, especialy if they're into more traditional methods of photography. But it was photoshop that got me into photography, so i always use it to help me out a little.

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

240 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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people who disagree with photoshopping images, even to do slight adjustments, are idiots.

What did we used to spend hours pissing around in the lab adjusting the filter at development time etc - exactly what we use photoshop for now.

I did a course with a tutor who insisted digital photography was not real photography. I suppose 35mm shooters got the same when it was released.

GetCarter

31,302 posts

309 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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stigmundfreud said:
What did we used to spend hours pissing around in the lab adjusting the filter at development time etc - exactly what we use photoshop for now.
/\ Wot he said - and cropping and burning ... longer in fact than I ever take in PS.

Blukoo

3,812 posts

227 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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stigmundfreud said:
I did a course with a tutor who insisted digital photography was not real photography.
I did an HND in Multimedia design and production 3 years ago. It was 100% computer based until it came to photography. Really surprised me when we were told it wasn't going to be digital. (although i guess thats why it was called "multi"media).
It was cool learning how to develop photographs old fashioned way though.

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

240 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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GetCarter said:
stigmundfreud said:
What did we used to spend hours pissing around in the lab adjusting the filter at development time etc - exactly what we use photoshop for now.
/\ Wot he said - and cropping and burning ... longer in fact than I ever take in PS.
Ah the good old days of getting your filter just right, your exposure just right then finding the developer has gone off. The stench on your skin, the yellow stains under your nails, burning in the nostrils. The dodging, the burning the guess work - blood and sweat made the results worth it. But photoshop is no different yet so many seem to have these hang ups yet forget exactly that PS is the same as the dark room.

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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stigmundfreud said:
people who disagree with photoshopping images, even to do slight adjustments, are idiots.

What did we used to spend hours pissing around in the lab adjusting the filter at development time etc - exactly what we use photoshop for now.

I did a course with a tutor who insisted digital photography was not real photography. I suppose 35mm shooters got the same when it was released.
yes I was on a photography course and couple of years ago. 3 of us with DSLR and one guy with film who insisted we were cheating and that DSLR's were not "real" photography. The tutor told him that the post processing on a PC meant it was very much still an artform and no different to stuff the guy did in his own darkroom. You always get luddites!!

biglepton

5,042 posts

231 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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I suspect I'm about to sound somewhat old-fashioned, but having tried both digital and 'proper' photography, I've gone back to film.

To me digital photography was a bit like driving the 'ring on a playstation - good fun, but not the real thing.

I think a lot of the problem is that modern digital SLR's are over complicated and very hard to learn photography on with coupled with being able to bracket limitlessly and then fix any problems in the comfort of photoshop at a later date. The other thing that put me off is that they are bloody heavy and fairly delicate which is no good if you like to hike to difficult locations and take landscapes. I've gone back to a 1979 Nikon FE, 50mm, 75-150mm and few sundries. Weighs very little, has been trodden on, dropped, and submerged but has never failed to take great pictures.

Yeah, yeah - I know I'm odd! biggrin

CivicMan

2,211 posts

231 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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Tweaked the abbey a bit!


CivicMan

2,211 posts

231 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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....and the gateway!


GetCarter

31,302 posts

309 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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biglepton said:
I suspect I'm about to sound somewhat old-fashioned, but having tried both digital and 'proper' photography, I've gone back to film.

To me digital photography was a bit like driving the 'ring on a playstation - good fun, but not the real thing.

I think a lot of the problem is that modern digital SLR's are over complicated and very hard to learn photography on with coupled with being able to bracket limitlessly and then fix any problems in the comfort of photoshop at a later date. The other thing that put me off is that they are bloody heavy and fairly delicate which is no good if you like to hike to difficult locations and take landscapes. I've gone back to a 1979 Nikon FE, 50mm, 75-150mm and few sundries. Weighs very little, has been trodden on, dropped, and submerged but has never failed to take great pictures.

Yeah, yeah - I know I'm odd! biggrin
I'm also old...

...and you need to get proper pro DSLRs if you don't want them to break! I moved from pro Nikons to pro DSLRs and they are a lot heavier, but never found them less robust. Unfortunately they cost twice as much and are obsolite after 3 years. But hey - there is NO WAY ON EARTH I'm getting back to film - I just can't afford that sort of money! I've saved a bundle changing to digital, and more importantly my photography has come on leaps and bounds, as I can experiment as much as I want - at no cost.


Edited by GetCarter on Monday 7th January 20:52

biglepton

5,042 posts

231 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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GetCarter said:
I'm also old...
I said 'odd', not old! biggrin

GetCarter said:
...and you need to get proper pro DSLRs if you don't want them to break! I moved from pro Nikons to pro DSLRs and they are a lot heavier, but never found them less robust. Unfortunately they cost twice as much and are obsolite after 3 years. But hey - there is NO WAY ON EARTH I'm getting back to film - I just can't afford that sort of money! I've saved a bundle changing to digital, and more importantly my photography has come on leaps and bounds, as I can experiment as much as I want - at no cost.
Are you sure you're saving money in the long term with hugely expensive cameras that are obselete by the time they need an MOT? wink The other thing that keeps me with my old FE is the obvious superiority of Nikons manual lenses, compared to modern AF ones. Still, I'm not here to start a film versus digital argument - everyone to their own personal favourite. smile

GetCarter

31,302 posts

309 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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biglepton said:
GetCarter said:
I'm also old...
I said 'odd', not old! biggrin

GetCarter said:
...and you need to get proper pro DSLRs if you don't want them to break! I moved from pro Nikons to pro DSLRs and they are a lot heavier, but never found them less robust. Unfortunately they cost twice as much and are obsolite after 3 years. But hey - there is NO WAY ON EARTH I'm getting back to film - I just can't afford that sort of money! I've saved a bundle changing to digital, and more importantly my photography has come on leaps and bounds, as I can experiment as much as I want - at no cost.
Are you sure you're saving money in the long term with hugely expensive cameras that are obselete by the time they need an MOT? wink The other thing that keeps me with my old FE is the obvious superiority of Nikons manual lenses, compared to modern AF ones. Still, I'm not here to start a film versus digital argument - everyone to their own personal favourite. smile
I'm just odd-fashioned wink

As for saving money, well I guess I'm spening about £75 per month in depreciation, but that has to be balanced against the cost of developing over 50,000 photos that I've taken with this body. Of course, If I'd still been using a film camera I would have taken far, far fewer shots... but therein lies my reason for loving the digital medium - when I take photos of the local fete, I take well over 1000 shots and could if I wanted, take twice that - with a film camera I would probably take less than 100.

That does enable me to take several dozen, just to get that one shot...



It's also probably why I'm known as 'Carpet Bomb Carter'... but as you say - everyone to their own personal favourite.


smile

ETA... sorry for the thread hi-jack... my landscapes here: http://www.stevecarter.com/2005/2005-0.htm


Edited by GetCarter on Tuesday 8th January 10:25