what do you need for a bus lane?
what do you need for a bus lane?
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bryan35

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1,906 posts

272 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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interesting, as the much hated bus lane created for the temporary bus station in Hull (that moved to it's new home about 6 months ago but the bus lane was never removed), now only exists in so far as the huge words 'BUS LANE' written on the road. The actual signs that once were attached to the poles each side of the road have gone.

Is this still a legal bus lane? or do you need to poles too?


Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

275 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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In 2006 Hull LA applied for and were granted an Order to decriminalise parking offences and to carry out enforcement procedures themselves. (http://www.tinyurl.com/34hech).

By being granted this Order, then were entitled to apply for an Order to enforce Bus Lane Contraventions and were so granted.
(Http://www.tinyurl.com/2qjboh )

To enforce a Bus Lane Contravention then there should be an Order originally made setting out the contravention and where applicable in Hull.

Presumably from what stated such an Order could well be in force and will remain in force until removed by Order. Traffic Signs and General Directions 2002 (http://www.tinyurl.com/b9kq)stipulate the signing of a bus lane with side plates on hours of effect etc. Having been removed then may well be the removal Order action has been taken so no longer a contravention to use. Likewise incorrect singing an argument that Order not valid.

dvd

Can only suggest a visit to Hull Chambers to enquire what the position is. Don't in any way get involved with the son of Despot
whom I understand is being groomed to take Daddies place??????



tvrgit

8,490 posts

283 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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DVD is right as usual, in saying that the Bus Lane will have originally required a Traffic Regulation Order to put it there. That Order will remain in place until it is revoked (by another Order!) or, if it was a Temporary Order, until the temporary period specified in the Order has expired.

The Local Authority should be able to tell you if the Order is still in force. If not, then use the marked lane with impunity!

Even if the Order IS still in force, then the bus lane must be properly signed and marked in accordance with TSRGD and the Traffic Signs Manual. That means the wide white line separating the bus lane from other traffic, the dotted line at the start AND the blue plates on poles. If not properly signed, then the Order is not enforceable anyway.

bryan35

Original Poster:

1,906 posts

272 months

Monday 7th January 2008
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Quote 'Can only suggest a visit to Hull Chambers to enquire what the position is. Don't in any way get involved with the son of Despot
whom I understand is being groomed to take Daddies place??????'

quite funny,

tried to Email you something on the quiet DVD but your profile doesn't allow it!