Mods moving threads that are news(ish) based......

[tubbystu]

Too many threads seemingly are being moved by (over) zealous moddish behaviour too soon.

When a P&P thread is listed of a news worthy basis, ie: my Oscar Peterson is dead thread and ZR1Cliff's Phil Lynott thread ( remembering 22 year since his passing) these are getting moved too quickly into more specialist (in this case music) threads.

I consider this kind of thread a news kind of thread that would get mentioned in the pub as news, and would suggest that they should get 24 hours at least (and ideally 48 maybe ) before being moved to the specialist fora.

Anybody else ?

The P&P was developed to allow non-motoring threads some air, these are items that should have some space in the mainstream general areas before being moved into the more specialist threads surely. We do not all have time to check all threads daily - so if, say, Carol Shelby were to die would it get shunted into some motorsport thread within hours before the general membership were allowed to comment ? I hope not.

Sorry mods - not having a go, but some time/policy is needed for some general genuine news worthy pub-chat type threads some time and space to be seen and commented on by the general membership before farming them off to PH speciality areas.

[Kinky]

So there was demand for a music forum.

So one was set up.

But now it's wrong to move threads there?

I don't get it

And if those threads are not moved, then there's complaints that these threads are in the wrong forums.

You can't please all of the people all of the time.

K

P.S. - Should this thread be moved to the website feedback forum - as that's exactly what it is?

[tubbystu]

Kinky said:

So there was demand for a music forum.

So one was set up.

But now it's wrong to move threads there?

I don't get it

And if we don't then there's complaints that all these threads are in the wrong forums.

You can't please all of the people all of the time.

K
P.S. - Should this thread be moved to the website feedback forum - as that's exactly what it is?

Well yes, but after a suitable period so the general populace can be made aware of more "news worthy" items.

If/when somebody like Carol Shelby dies it will make national print media front page news for a day or so and is wil be actively discussed by non-motoring peeps.
When Oscar Peterson died it made headline news for a day or so.
Phil Lynott's death 22 years ago made headline news for a day or so.

If and when, say, Cliff Richard or Ken Dodd (or insert any other elderly famous person) dies it will make national news and people should get to comment accordingley for 24/48 hours etc, that's my point - not that it gets moved, but it gets moved right sharpish - as with this thread..............

When the Queen dies, where are you intending to put that thread ? A new royal forum within a couple of hours ?

Isn't the P&P supposed to be a pub type banter forum, based on recent events etc hence its title - or am I missing something ? It was created to give "general gassing" its motoring heart back, wasn't it ?

I'm honestly not having a pop at the mods, I, for one, just cannot scour all threads for current stuff and might miss something that I can actively contribute too etc.

By immediately moving this into the relative backwater of the website feedback forum are you not potentially stiffleing (sp?) the response from the contributors

[Kinky]

Generally speaking anything musical-related goes into the music forums.

If you take your Shelby example, then I'd suspect that would move to GG.

P&P is a non-motoring catch-all forum for everything that does have it's own forum. So if there was a 'Queen' announcement, then that would probably stay in P&P - as it does not have it's own forum.

If people are interested in music - then they would read the music forums - as they would do with the food & drink, watches, sports, boats, bikes, model forums (and others too).

But I guess it also begs the question of 'news-worthyness'. For me Phil Lynott was a friend and a hero. For others on PH, they have no idea who he is. Where is the line drawn on what's news and what's not?

It's a tricky one - but you can't please all of the people all of the time.

As you say - P&P was created to remove all the 'non-motoring' items from GG. A few years down the road, that's now evolved into these additional non-motoring forums.

Just try reading every thread and keeping on top of them all So, what I do is select the forums I'm interested in - so I don't miss the topics that interest me directly.

K

[tubbystu]

Kinky said:

Just try reading every thread and keeping on top of them all K

I do regularly look at a number of non-motoring (ie the music and watches) threads, but I was just trying to suggest a 24 or 48 hour moritorium period when specialist, but ultimately news-worthy, threads might stay in the P&P - or a perhaps a thread has been moved tag is left in the P&P for people to follow ?

Nice S in you profile too

Off to bed, g'night.................

[Kinky]

I guess the key is how you define "ultimately news-worthy, threads".

Each persons definition is different.

Not an easy one - and not one I fancy discussing as it's way too late!

So like you - I'm outta here.

And for the record, I much prefer your S

K

[missdiane]

tubbystu said:

Kinky said:

Just try reading every thread and keeping on top of them all K

I do regularly look at a number of non-motoring (ie the music and watches) threads, but I was just trying to suggest a 24 or 48 hour moritorium period when specialist, but ultimately news-worthy, threads might stay in the P&P - or a perhaps a thread has been moved tag is left in the P&P for people to follow ?

Nice S in you profile too

Off to bed, g'night.................

There is a link left on the closed/moved thread taking you to the right forum.... )i think)

[Mrs Fish]

there used to be anyway Is that still the case...? I have no idea actually

[Mr Will]

There still is a "this thread has been moved" topic left behind

The problem is that in a fast moving forum such as the P&P this sinks out of sight very quickly.

Personally, i am in favor of moving threads to the appropriate forums. It might reduce the ultimate exposure of a thread but following the "topic moved" message helps introduce new users the more specialist forums which they might not have discovered otherwise.

[tubbystu]

Mr Will said:

There still is a "this thread has been moved" topic left behind

The problem is that in a fast moving forum such as the P&P this sinks out of sight very quickly.

Personally, i am in favor of moving threads to the appropriate forums. It might reduce the ultimate exposure of a thread but following the "topic moved" message helps introduce new users the more specialist forums which they might not have discovered otherwise.

True enough, and in principle I do agree.

It just seems that because a music forum exists anything with a hint of music bias gets quickly moved. As you say the P&P is so fast moving the "topic moved" tag does get lost in the wave of other new threads.

The original point I was trying to get to was to leave a "news" thread for 24 hours or so. If the Queen Mary 2 collides with QE2 and both sink would it get immediately shunted into the boats, boats, boats thread ? Probably not.

Just because the two example threads related to the death of a musician, I was trying to point out they get quickly whipped away into the "muso's" specialist thread when the content isn't specifically music - the content and discussion relates to the fact that somebody of note has passed away.