Audi TT

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count duckula

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1,324 posts

275 months

Tuesday 15th July 2003
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Last night I had a TT try and keep up with me ( on a private air strip )we both gave the cars welly, after the end of the road ( air strip ) which was about 0.75 miles long I had only managed to pull away about 7-8 car lengths, does this seem normal or am I getting used to the 4.5 ????

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Malc

rmurray73

177 posts

251 months

Tuesday 15th July 2003
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Can't say I've encountered a TT yet but would not have considered them as serious opposition due to the fastest standard car having 225 bhp. They probably weigh more than the Chim too..... even the new V6' are not that much quicker........
I had a tassle with a jap imported Impreza Turbo last week - 276 bhp & 1250 kg against my 450 and secured a convincing victory.....

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 15th July 2003
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I just had a miny "race" with a 225 TT coming to work in Egham.

He just beat me (in my Cerbera) and he was well chuffed!!

Only thing he doesn't know is that I'm running my engine in and am unable to rev it about 3000RPM

He ONLY just won as well!

tvrred

62 posts

265 months

Tuesday 15th July 2003
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Should be no competition after 60-70 (0-60 times similar, 0-100 times considerably different).

Of course I could never speak from experience on her madge's highway

gixxer1000

786 posts

253 months

Tuesday 15th July 2003
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rmurray73 said:
Can't say I've encountered a TT yet but would not have considered them as serious opposition due to the fastest standard car having 225 bhp.



If Audi's claimed 225bhp is close to the car's actual power, then it will most definitely be a contender to the Chim. A 4.5 Chim has a claimed 285bhp, but it's a well known fact that TVR use a fair bit of artistic licence with the claimed power of the Rover and AJP V8 engines (Sp6 seems to reach most of the claimed power), so you "285bhp" Chim is probably actually pushing out a fair bit less (around 240 at a guess). One chap on here recently put his 5lt Chim on the rolling road to find the claimed 320bhp was only delivering 250bhp!

I've driven a TT, and owned 4.0lt and 4.5lt Chims, and I'm not at all surprised to read that after less than a mile, the TT was only 7-8 car lengths behind. But hey - who cares. The TVR was still in front. The TVR has way more class and kudos. The Audi is a ten-a-penny piece of Euro-trash. All IMHO of course.

>> Edited by gixxer1000 on Tuesday 15th July 09:06

trefor

14,635 posts

284 months

Tuesday 15th July 2003
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One of three things going on here:

- TT has been chipped to 265-270hp. Very easy and cheap to do and many have had it done. One may keep up with a badly driven 4.0L Chim at that level.
- TVR is sick (they feel fast due to the noise, even when they're sick)
- TT driver had the drop on TVR or one driver was vastly better than the other (don't take it personally - a few years ago Tiff and VBH did some tracking in a 106GTI and a Saxo VTx, Tiff was all over Vicky all the time - driver's count).

I have a chipped 4.0L Chimaera (241 real HP) and my girlfriend has a std TT 225. I have driven a lot of miles in the TT and there is no way it would keep up over 60mph - the TVR just drives off like the TT is going backwards.

My suggestion - get a Mark Adams Rolling Road setup and Tornado fuelling chip to ensure your 4.5 is giving 100%.

T/.

jellison

12,803 posts

278 months

Tuesday 15th July 2003
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followed a maniac in an A3 Turbo a year or more ago this think was similar speed to the 500 but was no way std - huge flames coming out of exhaust on the over run, must have had approx 300 bhp consider in the weight!, you can make these shopping trolleys go - but then what is the point - half of the fun is being in a REAL Sportscar!

buzzsaw

698 posts

270 months

Tuesday 15th July 2003
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Autocar - Chim 4.0 0 - 100 approx 13 secs. TT approx 17 secs. If you were having problems in your 4.5 I would agree with the previous comments that either the Audi was hiding a secret or the Chim needs some TLC.

JonRB

74,625 posts

273 months

Tuesday 15th July 2003
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I'm surprised, to be honest. I've had Audi TTs try to outdrag me in the Corrado and they haven't pulled away, so I would have thought that a Chimaera would romp home.

But then again I once kept up with a Chimaera* in the Corrado, so maybe not.

* I suspect it was a 400 though.

sps

1,306 posts

261 months

Tuesday 15th July 2003
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Hi all,
A few weeks ago I came across a numpty in a TT.
I was in my Standard 4 ltr Chimaera.
He went for it going into a rather tight roundabout.
Obviously thought that he would leave me in his dust due to his 4 wheel drive, ABS, traction control and power steering! Got the rear end out and stayed "fastened to his rear end" Guess what, said numpty would not move over to let me pass. Joined another dual carriageway. I pulled along side (in the outside lane) and left him behind by approx. 100 yards after about half a mile.
They are fast and very boring!!
Cheers
SPS

manek

2,972 posts

285 months

Tuesday 15th July 2003
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JonRB said:
I'm surprised, to be honest. I've had Audi TTs try to outdrag me in the Corrado and they haven't pulled away, so I would have thought that a Chimaera would romp home.

But then again I once kept up with a Chimaera* in the Corrado, so maybe not.

* I suspect it was a 400 though.

Naah! My Corrado VR6 was no way as fast as my Chimaera 4.0!

Noodles 4.2

574 posts

263 months

Tuesday 15th July 2003
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I swapped my TT for a Cerb.

They are not fast. They are boring and overpriced (not to mention common as muck)

Tony

JonRB

74,625 posts

273 months

Tuesday 15th July 2003
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manek said:
Naah! My Corrado VR6 was no way as fast as my Chimaera 4.0!
Maybe he wasn't trying hard enough then.

count duckula

Original Poster:

1,324 posts

275 months

Wednesday 16th July 2003
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I should have brought a 5 litre.
I will poke a couple of things under the bonnet and see how I get on.

Malc

buzzsaw

698 posts

270 months

Wednesday 16th July 2003
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By coincidence, I came across a TT on the way home from work yesterday. I was cruising along at about 60 mph, just enjoying the nice weather with the top down, and noticed him coming up fast behind, so I thought I would try an experiment based on reading this thread ,and put the foot down. He was gone. This was on a bady surfaced, twisty B road too! He was definitely trying as we both overtook a couple of cars (safely!). I must admit, I don't know whether it was the 225bhp or 180bhp model but I assume the former as he was having a go. Used to have a Corrado VR6, and that was definitely slower than the Chim 4.5. Had a drag with a TT 225 in the Corrado, which worked out pretty much even (slight advantage to the TT).

JonRB

74,625 posts

273 months

Wednesday 16th July 2003
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buzzsaw said:
Had a drag with a TT 225 in the Corrado, which worked out pretty much even (slight advantage to the TT).
Yes, that's similar to the experience I had only I didn't really feel he had a slight advantage. I put that down to the fact that I'd had a rolling-road remap, a gas-flowed throttle body and (at the time) an induction kit. I guess that would probably eliminate a "slight advantage".

jellison

12,803 posts

278 months

Friday 18th July 2003
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noodles is right leave the tt's to hair dresses (not you of course - noy you have change profession!) and sales reps - golf with a nice (out of fashion) hair cut. Large balls please.

rcTT

11 posts

250 months

Friday 18th July 2003
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Had a Chimaera 4.5 for 2 years and now own a 225 TT Coupe. The TT may not out-drag a Chimaera to 40/50mph but after that I found it FAR superior in mid-range and certainly over 120mph. Handling is in a totally different league as well (TVR corner and handle like a TT? - I don't think so...). The TVR also felt very light on the front end over 100mph (and that's WITHOUT power steering!) plus the brakes were sh*te. What about safety? Which car would you rather have a shunt in? TVR or TT? When I bought the TVR I'm afraid I got taken in by all the 'noise' and didn't see through the mickey-mouse kit car build quality and pre-historic engineering (Leak oil? Leak water? Rusting chassis rails? Overheat? Depreciate like a b*stard? - oh they all do that sir...). Servicing costs are crazy (certainly for an old Rover V8), dealer service is patchy and I hated the fact you didn't know if you were actually going to get to your destination or it wouldn't start (part of the fun?). Glad I got rid of it!

plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Friday 18th July 2003
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TVR Service Rate £50/hour + VAT

Audi main agent £62/hour + VAT

Oh, and dont make me laugh, I have also owned both and a standard TVR Chim 450 will rape the TT 225 in any gear at any speed.

rcTT

11 posts

250 months

Friday 18th July 2003
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Forget the hourly rate - Service for TT £350 (next service due June 2005!!) Service for Chim £400 + every 6000 miles. You do the maths....
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