New Toyo tire about to be released !
Discussion
I've been using Toyo T1R's on my elise for a while now and at £185 a set (before fitting) they work very well for the money. They are a little soft on the sidewalls but a good alrounder. It seems however that Toyo is about to release a new wheel which is a bridge between the track variant R888 and the street tiure T1R. They are to be called Proxes R1R. See link below. If I can get hold of them I will buy a set as my T1R's are nearly up for replacement and let everyone know what they are like.
http://www.toyoproxesr1r.co.uk/
http://www.toyoproxesr1r.co.uk/
Given the ease of getting hold of Toyos at my local tyre place I might well have a go with them even though I've said I'll definately be going for Advans next.
Another day at Bedford next week will nearly see off my current set so I suppose I ought to click on your link Ollie to see if the S1 sizes are available yet
Another day at Bedford next week will nearly see off my current set so I suppose I ought to click on your link Ollie to see if the S1 sizes are available yet
They look exactly like my Japanese-spec Trampio R1Rs... so I must assumed this is the updated, E-marked version... good news as I would really not know with which to replace mine...
Indeed, it's sort of a hybrid between a regular UHP road tyre and a hardcore (road legal) track tyre - baiscally a semi-racing compound with a full depth (~7 mm) rain thread and halfway-house carcass construction - i.e. stiffer than an UHP road tyre, but noise and tramlining far more bearable than on Yoko A048s and the like...
Indeed, it's sort of a hybrid between a regular UHP road tyre and a hardcore (road legal) track tyre - baiscally a semi-racing compound with a full depth (~7 mm) rain thread and halfway-house carcass construction - i.e. stiffer than an UHP road tyre, but noise and tramlining far more bearable than on Yoko A048s and the like...
900T-R said:
They look exactly like my Japanese-spec Trampio R1Rs... so I must assumed this is the updated, E-marked version... good news as I would really not know with which to replace mine...
Indeed, it's sort of a hybrid between a regular UHP road tyre and a hardcore (road legal) track tyre - baiscally a semi-racing compound with a full depth (~7 mm) rain thread and halfway-house carcass construction - i.e. stiffer than an UHP road tyre, but noise and tramlining far more bearable than on Yoko A048s and the like...
Thanks for that Eric. They sound promising.Indeed, it's sort of a hybrid between a regular UHP road tyre and a hardcore (road legal) track tyre - baiscally a semi-racing compound with a full depth (~7 mm) rain thread and halfway-house carcass construction - i.e. stiffer than an UHP road tyre, but noise and tramlining far more bearable than on Yoko A048s and the like...
it sounds like a minor change to us, and is, its just your insurers point of view of running non-std tyres that are not recommended in the manufacturers handbook - you have an accident and they can try to wiggle out of it..or you could have the Police crawling all over your car post accident looking for something like this to jump on ...after going through this crap this year (and nothing wrong with my car at all) then I wouldnt risk it personally...not worth the hassle
bogie said:
it sounds like a minor change to us, and is, its just your insurers point of view of running non-std tyres that are not recommended in the manufacturers handbook - you have an accident and they can try to wiggle out of it..or you could have the Police crawling all over your car post accident looking for something like this to jump on ...after going through this crap this year (and nothing wrong with my car at all) then I wouldnt risk it personally...not worth the hassle
Surely if they're DOT approved / E marked, and the car would pass an MOT with them you'd be OK? In Germany the TUV (their hardcore MOT equivalent) specifies *exactly* which tyres can be fitted. We have more scope than that in the UK (at the moment.....)fergus said:
In Germany the TUV (their hardcore MOT equivalent) specifies *exactly* which tyres can be fitted.
To qualify, it's a range of tyres sizes and specifications that has been released as being 'OK' by the car manufacturer rather than one tyre size/speed rating/load rating (the one that it came on originally). If you want to fit a different wheel/tyre combination from what's on the list, you drive to your local friendly Tüv station and provided you have the right speed and load index for your car, you haven't unduly stretched or bulged your tyres to make them fit the rims, the ET value is within an acceptable range from the OE-specified one, the wheels and tyres don't hit the bodywork or suspension items along the suspension travel and the wheels don't stick out from the wheelwells, they will give you their blessing (and make corresponding notes in the vehicle papers).
900T-R said:
fergus said:
In Germany the TUV (their hardcore MOT equivalent) specifies *exactly* which tyres can be fitted.
To qualify, it's a range of tyres sizes and specifications that has been released as being 'OK' by the car manufacturer rather than one tyre size/speed rating/load rating (the one that it came on originally). If you want to fit a different wheel/tyre combination from what's on the list, you drive to your local friendly Tüv station and provided you have the right speed and load index for your car, you haven't unduly stretched or bulged your tyres to make them fit the rims, the ET value is within an acceptable range from the OE-specified one, the wheels and tyres don't hit the bodywork or suspension items along the suspension travel and the wheels don't stick out from the wheelwells, they will give you their blessing (and make corresponding notes in the vehicle papers).
indeed. I was referring to tyre spec, rather than brand, etc. the thing is over here you have to have the tyres in sizes (and sometimes make/model) that are manufacturer approved...if its not on the list, you can be in trouble
im not dreaming here guys...Ive been through all this crap just 3 months ago
...just reporting back so others wont get caught out. I wasnt, my car had Lotus OZs and 195s on etc, it was all perfect 
edit: I mean non-std sizes of tyre thats important, rather than brand i.e. you have 30 profile rubber on and 20mm wider etc when the car was never designed for it
im not dreaming here guys...Ive been through all this crap just 3 months ago
...just reporting back so others wont get caught out. I wasnt, my car had Lotus OZs and 195s on etc, it was all perfect edit: I mean non-std sizes of tyre thats important, rather than brand i.e. you have 30 profile rubber on and 20mm wider etc when the car was never designed for it
Edited by bogie on Wednesday 2nd July 12:02
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