No justice! A little rant.

[stewie732]

I got done for speeding at 102 in a 70.
600 quid fine and 6 points, 21 yr old. yes it was stupid and I will learn a lesson but my mate got caught doing 94 on the same stretch of road in a car that would definitely take longer to stop than mine and got 3 points and a 60 quid fine.

in total this will probably be a £4000 punishment (solicitors fee, fine and extra insurance costs for these few years).

p.s both of us were caught during the day in the dry.

[Plotloss]

Speed < 96 = 3+60

Speed > 96 = Court.

Stupid, yes.

The way it is, unfortunately.

[Burgmeister]

that is justice. if you break the rules you have to prepare for the punishment.

[selwonk]

Out of interest, why did you use a solicitor?

[JustinP1]

stewie732 said:

I got done for speeding at 102 in a 70.
600 quid fine and 6 points, 21 yr old. yes it was stupid and I will learn a lesson but my mate got caught doing 94 on the same stretch of road in a car that would definitely take longer to stop than mine and got 3 points and a 60 quid fine.

in total this will probably be a £4000 punishment (solicitors fee, fine and extra insurance costs for these few years).

p.s both of us were caught during the day in the dry.

The faster you go, the more your wallet gets raped.

The ratio is exponential.

[tigger1]

Why is this not justice?

You were going faster than your mate - over a prescribed limit (and more importantly, over the magic 3 figures)...and therefore were fined more.

Did you plead not-guilty too (given that you used a solicitor)?

[LeoSayer]

Don't forget:

Speed > 96 + officer's discretion = 3+60

[stewie732]

selwonk said:

Out of interest, why did you use a solicitor?

to do the paperwork and to get the cases deferred while I was offshore. wish I defended myself, think I would of came out better.

Edited by stewie732 on Thursday 10th January 13:04

[stewie732]

JustinP1 said:

stewie732 said:

I got done for speeding at 102 in a 70.
600 quid fine and 6 points, 21 yr old. yes it was stupid and I will learn a lesson but my mate got caught doing 94 on the same stretch of road in a car that would definitely take longer to stop than mine and got 3 points and a 60 quid fine.

in total this will probably be a £4000 punishment (solicitors fee, fine and extra insurance costs for these few years).

p.s both of us were caught during the day in the dry.

The faster you go, the more your wallet gets raped.

The ratio is exponential.

no shit. just a big jump between 96 and 4mph more, 100.

[SlowMo]

stewie732 said:

I got done for speeding at 102 in a 70.
600 quid fine and 6 points, 21 yr old. yes it was stupid and I will learn a lesson but . . .

bu bu bu but but but. . . .

No buts, you got caught now be a man and take it without moaning like a little kid.

[stewie732]

oh i can take it fine, insurance still isnt silly prices.

if you dont like rants, dont bloody read them then.

p.s here is a clue: threads with the word rant in them are quite often rants.

Edited by stewie732 on Thursday 10th January 15:10

[voyds9]

stewie732 said:

oh i can take it fine, insurance still isnt silly prices.

if you dont like rants, dont bloody read them then.

p.s here is a clue: threads with the word rant in them are quite often rants.

Edited by stewie732 on Thursday 10th January 15:10

If you don't want people to disagree with you then perhaps you shouldn't post a rant.

[jdening]

stewie732 said:

I got done for speeding at 102 in a 70.
600 quid fine and 6 points, 21 yr old. yes it was stupid and I will learn a lesson but my mate got caught doing 94 on the same stretch of road in a car that would definitely take longer to stop than mine and got 3 points and a 60 quid fine.

in total this will probably be a £4000 punishment (solicitors fee, fine and extra insurance costs for these few years).

p.s both of us were caught during the day in the dry.

You got it by the book - your mate was slightly lucky, as for 96 he would normally be looking at 4-5 points and a similar fine to you, and possibly disqualification as an option. 3 pts/60 quid (I assume a fixed penalty?) - the policeman's in a generous mood.

J.

[eldar]

stewie732 said:

I got done for speeding at 102 in a 70.
600 quid fine and 6 points, 21 yr old. yes it was stupid and I will learn a lesson but my mate got caught doing 94 on the same stretch of road in a car that would definitely take longer to stop than mine and got 3 points and a 60 quid fine.

in total this will probably be a £4000 punishment (solicitors fee, fine and extra insurance costs for these few years).

p.s both of us were caught during the day in the dry.

Learn from this, grasshopper.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAhQydBjyLw

[andmole]

Burgmeister said:

that is justice. if you break the rules you have to prepare for the punishment.

Rules/punishment YES.

Justice MOST CERTAINLY NOT.

[jdening]

andmole said:

Burgmeister said:

that is justice. if you break the rules you have to prepare for the punishment.

Rules/punishment YES.

Justice MOST CERTAINLY NOT.

Cobblers. He was doing over a ton and got caught. How is that not justice?

[biglepton]

stewie732 said:

in total this will probably be a £4000 punishment

You're not being punished for speeding, you are being punished for driving faster than your observation skills could cope with. If your observation had been sufficient to see the coppers or the scamera, we wouldn't be reading this thread. Observation and anticipation are the key to safe speeding as any police driver will tell you.

[GPSHead]

biglepton said:

stewie732 said:

in total this will probably be a £4000 punishment

You're not being punished for speeding, you are being punished for driving faster than your observation skills could cope with. If your observation had been sufficient to see the coppers or the scamera, we wouldn't be reading this thread. Observation and anticipation are the key to safe speeding as any police driver will tell you.

Oh that it were so easy. I would agree if we were talking about static cameras (other than those hidden behind signs). With police and talivans, even if you're very observant, by the time you see them it's likely to be too late.

[andmole]

jdening said:

andmole said:

Burgmeister said:

that is justice. if you break the rules you have to prepare for the punishment.

Rules/punishment YES.

Justice MOST CERTAINLY NOT.

Cobblers. He was doing over a ton and got caught. How is that not justice?

Because it's an unjust law that behaves like the proverbial sledgehammer cracking the proverbial nut. Try thinking of the meaning of the word justice in its broader sense.

[GPSHead]

jdening said:

andmole said:

Burgmeister said:

that is justice. if you break the rules you have to prepare for the punishment.

Rules/punishment YES.

Justice MOST CERTAINLY NOT.

Cobblers. He was doing over a ton and got caught. How is that not justice?

Because countless people are getting disproportionate punishments for driving safely (and sometimes not even speeding at all) while those who are driving dangerously are getting away with it. If a law was created that penalised us for breathing then would you call legally valid convictions for that justice? I'm not saying that speed enforcement is the same as that, I'm just saying that the assertion that breaking of the law + conviction = justice is not necessarily correct, and with more and more dubious legislation being created, it's getting worse rather than better.