Bike Speeders Jailed
Discussion
Ouch!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/3068731.stm
Shame they weren't drunk, they'd have probably got away with a ban.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/3068731.stm
Shame they weren't drunk, they'd have probably got away with a ban.
Mmmmm.... I remember a thread last year on which quite a few people had commented on speeds that they had managed to get to..... obviously, these were all on private roads, tracks, runways, or on the german autobahns
..... however this does make you think as to consequences of your actions.
Edited to say:just seen other thread - apologise for repitition.
>> Edited by tony_996hasgone on Tuesday 15th July 17:03
..... however this does make you think as to consequences of your actions. Edited to say:just seen other thread - apologise for repitition.
>> Edited by tony_996hasgone on Tuesday 15th July 17:03
TonyRec said:
I have to be careful what i say here but suffice to say that i think its outrageous that he has been jailed for this when people who Burgle houses etc etc etc etc are getting cautions and the like! 
He could have been banned for 10years, but prison....lets get real here.!
Totally agree with this sentiment, wtf is going on
who did he harm , society is getting sicker by the day under this lot of t8ssers. Harry
Prison should only be for people that are a threat to other people, their property, repeat offenders, and not for tax evaders, debters, motorists that haven't hurt anyone.
Community service and a big fine would be more worthwhile.
>> Edited by ledfoot on Tuesday 15th July 21:35
>> Edited by ledfoot on Tuesday 15th July 21:36
Community service and a big fine would be more worthwhile.
>> Edited by ledfoot on Tuesday 15th July 21:35
>> Edited by ledfoot on Tuesday 15th July 21:36
Prison - yes Prison, I can't believe it!
I've just been watching Builders from Hell on TV, where various builders have been blatantly ripping people off. People have lost thousands, had breakdowns / off sick from work for months with the stress and the Police do nothing (because builder rip-offs are civil matters I believe). And two bikers, who have harmed no-one, just travelled at a speed that is acceptable in some countries, are to be put in prison, along with lost licence etc. Pathetic and basically unjust.
I've just been watching Builders from Hell on TV, where various builders have been blatantly ripping people off. People have lost thousands, had breakdowns / off sick from work for months with the stress and the Police do nothing (because builder rip-offs are civil matters I believe). And two bikers, who have harmed no-one, just travelled at a speed that is acceptable in some countries, are to be put in prison, along with lost licence etc. Pathetic and basically unjust.
Blame the hype-up hysteria merchants like Brunstrom, Begg, Carsten and the traffic Inspector at Thames Valley (whose name escapes me at the moment), then the Commons Transport Select Committee, who swallow it all.
Then ask yourself if you're surprised that the justice dispensers in this fair land can be in touch with reality when all they've got to feed on is this guff.
The news line was that danger came with the risk of someone pulling out in front of the bikes.
Yet we're constantly fed images of police vehicles topping 150 in heavy traffic. There's no validity that warning devices make this safe. Witness the S Yorks "traffic cops" programme where the lorry pulled out and hit the traffic car.
So, if plod can do it no more safely than Mr Average, why must Mr Average be demonised?
Not having a go at our friendly BiB's, just highlighting the farce that passes for our justice sytem......
Then ask yourself if you're surprised that the justice dispensers in this fair land can be in touch with reality when all they've got to feed on is this guff.
The news line was that danger came with the risk of someone pulling out in front of the bikes.
Yet we're constantly fed images of police vehicles topping 150 in heavy traffic. There's no validity that warning devices make this safe. Witness the S Yorks "traffic cops" programme where the lorry pulled out and hit the traffic car.
So, if plod can do it no more safely than Mr Average, why must Mr Average be demonised?
Not having a go at our friendly BiB's, just highlighting the farce that passes for our justice sytem......
mybrainhurts said:
Blame the hype-up hysteria merchants like Brunstrom, Begg, Carsten and the traffic Inspector at Thames Valley (whose name escapes me at the moment), then the Commons Transport Select Committee, who swallow it all.
Then ask yourself if you're surprised that the justice dispensers in this fair land can be in touch with reality when all they've got to feed on is this guff.
The news line was that danger came with the risk of someone pulling out in front of the bikes.
Yet we're constantly fed images of police vehicles topping 150 in heavy traffic. There's no validity that warning devices make this safe. Witness the S Yorks "traffic cops" programme where the lorry pulled out and hit the traffic car.
So, if plod can do it no more safely than Mr Average, why must Mr Average be demonised?
Not having a go at our friendly BiB's, just highlighting the farce that passes for our justice sytem......
I have to disagree there with what you have said.
I dont know what sort of training these riders had and i wont bore you with the courses that we have done....but this aside, these riders would not have been riding at absolute ease, they would have been riding with an adrenalin rush...looking for Police, Frightened of being caught, red mist...call it what you want but they are all ingredients to disaster!
However, when im driving or riding (not that ive done that speed on a bike which i think is totally dangerous anyway!) iam trained to be relaxed and make spot on judgements..this is where the training pays of in protecting myself and the public etc.
I think that im qualified enough on this subject as ive seen it from both sides, ie....regularly exceed the speed limit and a few days ago i have to retrieve a motorcyclists arms which were severed off following a Collision with some street furniture......and he was the only person involved and this was definately due to the excess speed!!!!!
tonyrec said:
I think that im qualified enough on this subject as ive seen it from both sides, ie....regularly exceed the speed limit and a few days ago i have to retrieve a motorcyclists arms which were severed off following a Collision with some street furniture......and he was the only person involved and this was definately due to the excess speed!!!!!
Yuck. However, on a bike at that sort of speed, the person most at risk is the rider. Yes, some poor bastard will have to clean the mess up, and probably end up tramatised beyond belief. Yes, the riders family will be devestated.
But, I'd rather be rear ended by a 200kg bike doing 150mph than by a 2000kg Merc doing 150mph.
If it's so dangerous and worthy of a month in clink, why is it legal in Germany?
Okay, two bikers exceeding the limit (going maybe a touch too quick) on a dual carriageway, good visibility, obviously very aware of other traffic etc. due to speed. Get caught, 4 weeks in jail.
Missus S3 stolen, scum were caught, admitted a further 23 counts of high performance car theft (breaking in for keys). 1 year drug rehab order - they were a victim of society!
The law is complete bollox.
It is about time the police and politicians start concentrating on serious issues, drugs, crime etc. Even educating drivers to drive safely with anticipation and observation rather than penalising people that speed (and do not even drive dangerously)
Missus S3 stolen, scum were caught, admitted a further 23 counts of high performance car theft (breaking in for keys). 1 year drug rehab order - they were a victim of society!
The law is complete bollox.
It is about time the police and politicians start concentrating on serious issues, drugs, crime etc. Even educating drivers to drive safely with anticipation and observation rather than penalising people that speed (and do not even drive dangerously)
Er this is my first post so better make it good hey.
I think 28 days is a bit soft. I mean there's speeding and there's taking the P!55 isn't there?
Their families should be glad they were stopped before they died.
The roads are full of people who have little comprehension of speed, some who can bearly see (my grandad could see as far as the curb but no further), some who are on drugs (legitimate or illegal), some who just don't have the experience. If one of these people had chosen to change lane, without indicating they'd be gonners as would our prospective land speed record holders. That's why track days are to be encouraged and 'excessive' speeding should be discouraged. And yes it's a shame they don't send more muggers down as well.
I think 28 days is a bit soft. I mean there's speeding and there's taking the P!55 isn't there?
Their families should be glad they were stopped before they died.
The roads are full of people who have little comprehension of speed, some who can bearly see (my grandad could see as far as the curb but no further), some who are on drugs (legitimate or illegal), some who just don't have the experience. If one of these people had chosen to change lane, without indicating they'd be gonners as would our prospective land speed record holders. That's why track days are to be encouraged and 'excessive' speeding should be discouraged. And yes it's a shame they don't send more muggers down as well.
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