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Shnozz

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30,632 posts

300 months

Friday 11th January 2008
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I would like to draw from the experience of those in nobility.

How much, to the nearest pound, would a 51 plate 30k miles 2.5 M12 cost me to run over a year, doing around 5k miles and a handful of trackdays?

Thanks in anticipation.

Shnozzer.

nigelw

706 posts

230 months

Friday 11th January 2008
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"How long is a piece of string ?" comes to mind , unfortunately , depends if you are unlucky you might be with blow ups on the track day (no track day sump I am guessing?) .....you really need a bit of spare cash behind you with a car of this type I think .

obes

3,298 posts

273 months

Friday 11th January 2008
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Without any bias I would say it would be very good value winkyes

obes

3,298 posts

273 months

Friday 11th January 2008
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Seriously though....

you will go through a set rears in two trackdays.
you should get more than 5k of road mileage though.
Also it's best to change the oil after every couple of trackdays. 8.5l in the track sump so 6 days is 25l, probably £150ish.
There's probably a set of pads and front discs in that amount of trackwork too. If the trackdays are £100 each, there's £600 plus probably £100 of fuel each time, so £1,200.

RobP

2,097 posts

270 months

Friday 11th January 2008
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obes said:
Seriously though....

you will go through a set rears in two trackdays.
you should get more than 5k of road mileage though.
Also it's best to change the oil after every couple of trackdays. 8.5l in the track sump so 6 days is 25l, probably £150ish.
There's probably a set of pads and front discs in that amount of trackwork too. If the trackdays are £100 each, there's £600 plus probably £100 of fuel each time, so £1,200.
Obes - it depends entirely on how you treat your car as to how long tyres and pads last both on the track and on the road.
I keep a record of mileage, dates (and cost) associated with every change/repair that has been done to my car since new. I also keep a log of trackdays and services. Sad I know, but sometimes it is useful to have real information.
I recently changed my rear Corsas (26/11/07, 26131 miles). Before that they were changed on 25/10/06 at 16524 miles - so that's 13 months, 9607 miles and 12 trackdays. The fronts lasted longer than this. Pads (Pagid RS29s)were changed on 28/02/07 at 19700 miles and theres still plenty of meat left on them.
Anyone who gets through a set of rear tyres and pads in 2 trackdays either cannot drive or is ignorant of the susceptibility of Nobles to excessive heat build up (assuming in both cases the tyre pressures are correct). This is simply a weakness of the Noble (compared to say, GT3RSs etc), but the solution is blindingly simple. Cool down and and rest up for 30 mins after every 15 mins of hot laps. You don't lose that much track time and just do the maths - I get 6x the number of trackdays per set of rear tyres. At £650 a set -well work it out. You can pay for a shed load more trackdays by simply looking after your car.

obes

3,298 posts

273 months

Friday 11th January 2008
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Great stuff Rob. You can be as sad as you like if it's as beneficial to us as that !!! That's loads more miles that I expected.
There's the answer then Shnozz, you'll have to be less of a hooligan wink

V6GTO

11,579 posts

271 months

Friday 11th January 2008
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He can't help it...he's a solicitor hehe

DanH

12,287 posts

289 months

Friday 11th January 2008
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Shnozz said:
I would like to draw from the experience of those in nobility.

How much, to the nearest pound, would a 51 plate 30k miles 2.5 M12 cost me to run over a year, doing around 5k miles and a handful of trackdays?

Thanks in anticipation.

Shnozzer.
It depends what goes wrong. It could be very expensive, or you may get away with it. Of course the earlier the M12, the more stuff that is likely to go wrong. E.g. 2.5 - 5 speed box and open diff? ECU been replaced/fixed? Trackday sump installed? crappier ball joints on the early 2.5s.

Of course if you are lucky you'll be laughing. If you can keep away from the track you'll probably not have many problems. My ownership was pretty expensive for exactly what you describe on a later car.

AMG Merc

11,955 posts

282 months

Friday 11th January 2008
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Extra trackday expense can also be racked up when an errant Lotus (was it?!) driver mullers your rear end whilst stationary by the side of a track after a spin waiting to rejoin. getmecoat

LJM

241 posts

249 months

Saturday 12th January 2008
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My 02 plate cost me about 6k in 18months of ownership, with no trackdays. It really does depend on the luck and the cars spec....make sure you get one with the right spec (upgraded diff, ecu etc)

HTH,

Lloyd

NobleGuy

7,133 posts

244 months

Sunday 13th January 2008
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LJM said:
My 02 plate cost me about 6k in 18months of ownership, with no trackdays. It really does depend on the luck and the cars spec....make sure you get one with the right spec (upgraded diff, ecu etc)
Jesus....

I have spent around £1000 on servicing/tyres/battery in nigh on 21 months (although I don't use it massively often and don't thrash it all that much).
The diff went last week which will probably hit me for 3K give or take, so as mentioned, it can just come down to luck. Most expensive expected(ish) failures on the Noble are the ECU and diff. Get some engines letting go every now and then but not very many, certainly no more than any other marque I would have thought.

It's like any other car - buy one and cross your fingers when the warranty rus out...or buy another warranty.

ajg31

1,455 posts

236 months

Monday 14th January 2008
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Agree, get one with warranty and cross your fingers on a trackday smile It could be fantastic value for money or (as in my case) a huge moneypit (that could have been resolved by a good warranty).