Elise S Turbo

[Boggy]

http://forums.seloc.org/viewthread.php?tid=149386

Is it worth buying the Lotus S/c car now?

Boggy

[NathanE]

8 grand. So an Elise S costs what 24k RRP? 24k + 8k = 32k... Then minus the depreciation (which is always much worse with any extensively modified Lotus)

It's an option though. But I suspect most people would rather the "official" Elise S/C for a similar price.

Edited by NathanE on Friday 11th January 18:23

[S Works]

Certainly interesting - depends how laggy it is I guess. But you should really then add in another grand at least to upgrade the brakes to cope.

[bosscerbera]

It's not laggy, far from it. This installation/conversion has been proved for some time (and thousands of miles) in 'Yota MR2 Roadsters. Torque feels HUGE in such a light car.





The price of a brand new Elise S plus an SP-T conversion is from £31,595 (plus OTR charges and options). Manufacturer-backed warranty included.

A 240bhp/240lb-ft SP-T has around 30% more torque than an Exige Cup 255. Consequently it's a faster, lighter car than the ultimate Exige for about the same price as a stock Elise R.

Shown at Pistonheads Show with sister car, supercharged SP-K (for Elise R and Exige) with 250bhp/185lb-ft.

[bogie]

cant see how the depreciation can be worse than a brand new Lotus?

its not like it knocks £8K off the value is it ? ..id of thought that at any period in time it would be worth at least £4K more than a stock car to someone that wants one with a Turbo.

..besides, conversions are not really for brand new car buyers ...most newbies to the brand will go for a factory car. Generally for conversions are for people who have had it a while, want some more performance, but dont want to take the depreciation/cost to change hit at a dealer

so you have a 2 yr old S worth like £16K, you want more poke like a top spec Exige which is going to cost you another £16K used ...so you spend £8K on upgrading your own car and keep it...whilst getting another warranty on the important bit

id sooner spend the cash on my own car rather than line the dealer and VAT mans pocket with £10K every time to change to a 2 new year newer one

Edited by bogie on Saturday 12th January 00:50

[bosscerbera]

bogie said:

so you have a 2 yr old S worth like £16K, you want more poke like a top spec Exige which is going to cost you another £16K used ...so you spend £8K on upgrading your own car and keep it...

Hard to find a used S though!! I looked. Granted, would be an even sweeter pill if a saving could be made on the 'base' car.

The motivation for choosing an R over an S is surely performance? Ergo the performance choices for a given sum can be SP-T vs R. "My" car (which SP will use for promotion whenever they can prize it out of my mitts) adds up to about £36K OTR with all its bells'n'whistles (touring pack, big SP12 wheels/R888 tyres, sports exhaust and a few accessories). I like 2008 black clocks, starter button and combined key/button too. It must be the highest torque-to-weight new car available at £36K?

[bogie]

yeah - I was talking in a year or so when you can find used ones ...Silverstone are just ahead of time with the conversion LOL

[miro]

Certainly food for thought ... I have an S already definately easier path than swapping to another car might have to get me a look at one..preferably from behind the wheel. I guess thats the difficult part at the moment

[McQueen S]

Looks very interesting.
Any detailed specifications available?
0-60 maybe?

[S Works]

If it's not laggy then it would seem a very sensible choice. I agree with bogie 100%, if you want to get more power and have an S, or when the cost of used S's starts to come down, it'll be a great way of getting more grunt. Still needs bigger brakes though!

[TIPPER]

McQueen S said:

Looks very interesting.
Any detailed specifications available?
0-60 maybe?

With all due 0 - 60 is hardly worth noting in a true performance car.

[McQueen S]

TIPPER said:

McQueen S said:

Looks very interesting.
Any detailed specifications available?
0-60 maybe?

With all due 0 - 60 is hardly worth noting in a true performance car.

With all due, if this is a performance kit, would you not want to know how it performs? I don't see the logic of your comment.

[kevin ritson]

Boggy said:

http://forums.seloc.org/viewthread.php?tid=149386

Is it worth buying the Lotus S/c car now?

Boggy

Yes, because there are always people that refuse to buy modded cars

[Boggy]

kevin ritson said:

Boggy said:

http://forums.seloc.org/viewthread.php?tid=149386

Is it worth buying the Lotus S/c car now?

Boggy

Yes, because there are always people that refuse to buy modded cars

I wouldn't buy a car that had a different engine in either, but this kit is cheaper than the S/c Elise and gives a lot more real world power and torque

Boggy

[kevin ritson]

But fitting a non-OEM supercharger is no different to an engine conversion in the eyes of the public. I can't see how you could refuse to own a Honda'd car yet be happy to bolt on a third party supercharger or turbo?

[Boggy]

kevin ritson said:

But fitting a non-OEM supercharger is no different to an engine conversion in the eyes of the public. I can't see how you could refuse to own a Honda'd car yet be happy to bolt on a third party supercharger or turbo?

Not just a Honda, I wouldn't put any other engine apart from an officially recognised Lotus engine, just the way I feel nothing against other people's ideas

Boggy

[kevin ritson]

But would you fit a non-Lotus supercharger, such as the Katana or SP-K to a 111R or N/A Exige?

[Boggy]

kevin ritson said:

But would you fit a non-Lotus supercharger, such as the Katana or SP-K to a 111R or N/A Exige?

To be honest I'm not 100% sure? Don't like the idea of taking the chance with the car if was still under warranty, also selling it on may be an issue as it wouldn't be an official product. May be all irrelevant for me anyway might be changing to a porka if the 2 + 2 Eagle isn't what I expect it to be. Were not changing our sport's car yet for another 4 or so year's but the next car had to double up as a cruiser, were buying another property by the coast as well as moving so it would be hard to justify another Exige

Boggy

[Mrs Trackside]

kevin ritson said:

But fitting a non-OEM supercharger is no different to an engine conversion in the eyes of the public. I can't see how you could refuse to own a Honda'd car yet be happy to bolt on a third party supercharger or turbo?

That depends on your definition of "non-OEM". The SP-K kit uses a Toyota approved/ engineered Supercharger (installation) on a Toyota engine, approved to Toyota standards. Likewise the SP-T uses a Toyota approved/ engineered Turbo on a Toyota engine also approved to Toyota standards. These kits were developed by Toyota Motorsport and Silverstone Performance is a Toyota Motorsport partner.

[kevin ritson]

Indeed but to the wider public this will be less well-known. The point I'm making is that there are people out there that want standard cars, albeit with the odd minor mod such as a fruity exhaust and this is why Lotus should be building cars like the Elise SC.