snooper 950x - How effective ?
snooper 950x - How effective ?
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Rafferj

Original Poster:

191 posts

227 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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Do any other posters have first-hand experience of this radar jamming unit ?

Have only managed to find a couple of reviews so far and they rate it very highly.

Having been accused(incorrectly)of doing 97 miles an hour in a 70 limit and having had to pay for a defense (which was successful, no points or fine gladly!), I don't want to run the risk of one of these inaccurate mobile speed traps again - the radar guns are so inaccurate it should be illegal !

I'm happy to pay £250 / £300 to prevent this sort of drama again so would appreciate any further information on either this unit or any other similar ones.

I'd rather protect my 8 years of having no points whatsoever and not having to pay insurance premiums for aberations on my license.

Thanks guys.


teabagger

723 posts

228 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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bitwrx

1,352 posts

235 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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I'm not a lawyer or a BiB, but I thought (as in I am fairly sure) that jammers are illegal.

Detectors good, jammers bad... hence the lack of info maybe.

Rafferj

Original Poster:

191 posts

227 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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bitwrx said:
I'm not a lawyer or a BiB, but I thought (as in I am fairly sure) that jammers are illegal.

Detectors good, jammers bad... hence the lack of info maybe.
Officially yes, they are banned for use. However are sold as 'garage door openers' or as switching devices for gates etc so fairly easy to get around. They are hidden under the grills and cannot be detected without dismantling bits of the car or really poking around in detail.

I'm just trying to get a handle on which of the jammers are effective and which are not before parting with my cash wink

Sheriff JWPepper

3,851 posts

235 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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Spend the money on having your speedo recalibrated. wink

time2react

91 posts

231 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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Rafferj said:
Having been accused(incorrectly)of doing 97 miles an hour in a 70 limit and having had to pay for a defense (which was successful, no points or fine gladly!), I don't want to run the risk of one of these inaccurate mobile speed traps again - the radar guns are so inaccurate it should be illegal !
I couldn't believe it the other day when my colleague speed checked me with the LTI 20/20 laser in the traffic car i was driving, having only just calibrated the vehicles provida system. I was travelling at 30 mph and when I got back to him the LTI had shown 30 mph. Even worse when we tested it at 60 mph on the calibrated provida system it showed as 60 mph. I mean if it is as inaccurate as this.

allaway

353 posts

253 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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time2react said:
Rafferj said:
Having been accused(incorrectly)of doing 97 miles an hour in a 70 limit and having had to pay for a defense (which was successful, no points or fine gladly!), I don't want to run the risk of one of these inaccurate mobile speed traps again - the radar guns are so inaccurate it should be illegal !
I couldn't believe it the other day when my colleague speed checked me with the LTI 20/20 laser in the traffic car i was driving, having only just calibrated the vehicles provida system. I was travelling at 30 mph and when I got back to him the LTI had shown 30 mph. Even worse when we tested it at 60 mph on the calibrated provida system it showed as 60 mph. I mean if it is as inaccurate as this.
Did you check it at 159mph as well Officer Milton?

s2art

18,942 posts

284 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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time2react said:
Rafferj said:
Having been accused(incorrectly)of doing 97 miles an hour in a 70 limit and having had to pay for a defense (which was successful, no points or fine gladly!), I don't want to run the risk of one of these inaccurate mobile speed traps again - the radar guns are so inaccurate it should be illegal !
I couldn't believe it the other day when my colleague speed checked me with the LTI 20/20 laser in the traffic car i was driving, having only just calibrated the vehicles provida system. I was travelling at 30 mph and when I got back to him the LTI had shown 30 mph. Even worse when we tested it at 60 mph on the calibrated provida system it showed as 60 mph. I mean if it is as inaccurate as this.
No prob, try again and get him to sweep it a bit. That should put your mind to rest.

Rafferj

Original Poster:

191 posts

227 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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time2react said:
Rafferj said:
Having been accused(incorrectly)of doing 97 miles an hour in a 70 limit and having had to pay for a defense (which was successful, no points or fine gladly!), I don't want to run the risk of one of these inaccurate mobile speed traps again - the radar guns are so inaccurate it should be illegal !
I couldn't believe it the other day when my colleague speed checked me with the LTI 20/20 laser in the traffic car i was driving, having only just calibrated the vehicles provida system. I was travelling at 30 mph and when I got back to him the LTI had shown 30 mph. Even worse when we tested it at 60 mph on the calibrated provida system it showed as 60 mph. I mean if it is as inaccurate as this.
Absolute boocks if you actually believe laser guns are acurate ? They've already been scientifically proven and denounced as inacurate due to the bending and distortion of the signal of distance - why do you think I didn't get convicted from a reading well into the nineties in a 70 limit ?

The problem isn't with being targeted with one, thats fine. The problem is with the complete waste of time and administration that then goes with going to court, and proving your innocence which costs money and more importantly time. I don't really want to waste up to 7 or 8 hours of my time messing about because some jobsworth is pointing one of these devices at my vehicle on the motorway trying to meet his monthly target and supplement his income so the Police can procure more of the same devices!

I'm all for safe driving, particularly in towns and villages, around schools etc, but to be trying to prosecute drivers for doing around or marginally over the speed limit on an empty motorway is simply not on, especially as I was only doing around 70 mph at the time.

Concentrate the time and money on driver education, improving road surfaces, removing items that reduce visibility (overhanging trees, blind bends, overgrown foliage and hedges), and give the larger motorways a fast 'autobahn' style lane for safe drivers who can travel above 70mph safely. The Germans are the most efficient nationals around and their road traffic system is excellent and works like clockwork. Its about time we followed suit, and while we're at it, where's our own Nurburgring ? wink


EU_Foreigner

2,838 posts

257 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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Problem is that it is a sensitive area, one best not discussed as such (bit of a Mason thing, wink, wink).

At the moment, having the garage openers / parking sensors etc works great. There are hardly any people around who have them, so there is no problem with having them.

Best thing to do is on line research, get one, fit it and keep quiet so that no one else gets the same idea with as a result that the revenue generators get less money and will try to stop the use of them ...

G51CAV

926 posts

229 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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Raffer
From your initial post it appears you are looking for a radar jammer because you believe the system is inaccurate.
I'm therefore guessing that you were detected by a radar system!
You later talk about laser being inaccurate, they are two totally different systems and aside from being illegal a radar jammer is ineffective against a laser system.

cptsideways

13,894 posts

283 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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Aircaft hanger (fairly stationary version) doing 72mph with a sweep, foolproof don't think so



Edited by cptsideways on Wednesday 16th January 18:58

paoloh

8,617 posts

235 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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Sorry to sound stupid but can someone explain "sweeping"?

Edited by paoloh on Wednesday 16th January 19:16

s2art

18,942 posts

284 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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paoloh said:
Sorry to sound stupid but can someone explain "sweeping"?

Edited by paoloh on Wednesday 16th January 19:16
Just a tiny movement of the gun can cause the 'focus' of the laser to move along an object, fooling the gun into thinking that the target is moving at a different speed.

paoloh

8,617 posts

235 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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s2art said:
paoloh said:
Sorry to sound stupid but can someone explain "sweeping"?

Edited by paoloh on Wednesday 16th January 19:16
Just a tiny movement of the gun can cause the 'focus' of the laser to move along an object, fooling the gun into thinking that the target is moving at a different speed.
How MUCH of a different speed???

EU_Foreigner

2,838 posts

257 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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can be anything, but in the example above a stationary object was "doing" 72 miles an hour.

Normally, a sweep can certainly add enough to a reading to get you into point territory

paoloh

8,617 posts

235 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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If this commonly known, how are they still allowed as evidence??

EU_Foreigner

2,838 posts

257 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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because they are type approved. That means you can not protest the principle in court and reject the evidence in case of a speeding trial.

You have to do a judicial review of the units before they get thrown out, and who can afford to do that ...

paoloh

8,617 posts

235 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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That is ludicrous! In reality this machine in the hands of a target driven Police force can manipulated to alter the "speed" you are travelling at......

EU_Foreigner

2,838 posts

257 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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Yes, but even if it is not done deliberately, there is still a chance that undeliberate movements cause the slip effect and therefore increase the reading. As the devices are type approved (meaning that they work if handled properly), it is assumed that they always work properly as the operators have been trained in their use ...

Just as a side note, in the US these devices are not approved for speed readings over a certain distance as they have been proven to be wrong in court, in the UK however they are ... go figure