extending a ban because of an appeal
extending a ban because of an appeal
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jinked

Original Poster:

316 posts

226 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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In 2006 I was banned from driving. I still do not believe i should have been banned and am currently filling complaints against the 5 filthy pigs who arrested me and lost me my license.

i thought my ban was coming to an end, so i called the dvla as i have changed address and wanted to find out how to get my license back. however, when i called the dvla they told me that because i appealed my ban another 2 months have been added to the ban.

when i did the ridiculous dde course they told me that i was entitled to get my license back on the original date, when i was in court for the appeal the judge said i would be entitled to get my license back on the original date.

Does anyone know why these 2 months have been added to my ban (it was a longer period of time from the ban to the appeal, that was approx 3 months), if it is lawful and if i can get these 2 months taken off again?

cheers

moosepig

1,306 posts

272 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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jinked said:
am currently filling complaints against the 5 filthy pigs who arrested me and lost me my license.
You won't get much sympathy on here with that sort of attitude.

jinked

Original Poster:

316 posts

226 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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im sorry, let me reword that for you.

the 5 officers who believe it is ok to abuse their power of authority without regard.

is that better for you?

RichBurley

2,432 posts

284 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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A ban can go up, as well as down. When you appealed, the Court must have thought that upon reconsideration, your ban should go up.

allaway

353 posts

253 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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It took 5 coppers to arrest you? Drink driving?

Chrispy Porker

17,758 posts

259 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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dde course is what exactly?

SS2.

14,712 posts

269 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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Chrispy Porker said:
dde course is what exactly?
Drink Driver Education ?

jinked

Original Poster:

316 posts

226 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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richburley, the appealent judge agreed with the judgement of the court below. So, no, he didnt increase the ban.

allaway, yep, 1 copper to tell me to drive home and 4 to wait for me to leave the station and arrest me on the road infront of the station

chrispy poker, dde- drink driver education

Chrispy Porker

17,758 posts

259 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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SS2. said:
Chrispy Porker said:
dde course is what exactly?
Drink Driver Education ?
I see.
Say no more.

apocalypso

94 posts

226 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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Can I just ask, what were the circumstances of your ban? It's a bit difficult for anyone to offer advice without knowing exactly what happened.

jinked

Original Poster:

316 posts

226 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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i cant really go into any details until the investigations have been concluded. Until i have the results of the investigation i can only speculate on the integrity of the officers involved and the motives of their actions.

all i need to know is whether anyone other than a judge can extend a sentence. I was banned from driving by the magistrates judge and the appellant judge upheld that decision (this means he did not adjust the sentence in any way, either increasing or decreasing the ban). If i was given a ban for 15 months from the date of the magistrates hearing how come i have to serve 17 months?

It would be easy to understand this if i had been given my license back after the magistrates hearing and was allowed to drive until the date of the appeal. However, thats not the case, i was given a ban by the magistrate and have not been allowed to drive since. Due to the fact i appealed i have been given an extra 2 months on my ban, how does that work?

T_Pot

2,542 posts

228 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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Drink Drive

dont know what length ban you had, but it wasnt long enough.


s2art

18,942 posts

284 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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jinked said:
i cant really go into any details until the investigations have been concluded. Until i have the results of the investigation i can only speculate on the integrity of the officers involved and the motives of their actions.

all i need to know is whether anyone other than a judge can extend a sentence. I was banned from driving by the magistrates judge and the appellant judge upheld that decision (this means he did not adjust the sentence in any way, either increasing or decreasing the ban). If i was given a ban for 15 months from the date of the magistrates hearing how come i have to serve 17 months?

It would be easy to understand this if i had been given my license back after the magistrates hearing and was allowed to drive until the date of the appeal. However, thats not the case, i was given a ban by the magistrate and have not been allowed to drive since. Due to the fact i appealed i have been given an extra 2 months on my ban, how does that work?
Sounds like you have a case. Maybe someone on Pepipoo could advise better.

Chrispy Porker

17,758 posts

259 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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I should ask your solicitor.

The Tea Boy

4,129 posts

266 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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T_Pot said:
Drink Drive

dont know what length ban you had, but it wasnt long enough.
yes whatever the length of the ban, it should be life simple as!!!
HTH


matt

time2react

91 posts

231 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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jinked said:
richburley, the appealent judge agreed with the judgement of the court below. So, no, he didnt increase the ban.

allaway, yep, 1 copper to tell me to drive home and 4 to wait for me to leave the station and arrest me on the road infront of the station

chrispy poker, dde- drink driver education
I asume you walked up to the police station, got drunk there, then they forced you into your car, which just happend to be in their carpark. smash

Chrispy Porker

17,758 posts

259 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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time2react said:
jinked said:
richburley, the appealent judge agreed with the judgement of the court below. So, no, he didnt increase the ban.

allaway, yep, 1 copper to tell me to drive home and 4 to wait for me to leave the station and arrest me on the road infront of the station

chrispy poker, dde- drink driver education
I asume you walked up to the police station, got drunk there, then they forced you into your car, which just happend to be in their carpark. smash
yeah, happens all the time........ rolleyes

biglepton

5,042 posts

232 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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Jinked - your attitude stinks, you drink drive and you come on here looking for sympathy. Let's hope the courts have the good sense to extend your ban indefinitely or preferably jail you.

HTH

7db

6,060 posts

261 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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The Tea Boy said:
T_Pot said:
Drink Drive

dont know what length ban you had, but it wasnt long enough.
yes whatever the length of the ban, it should be life simple as!!!
HTH
matt
I can recall a case where it was quite clear that the lady was guilty of drink driving and the sentence of a unconditional discharge was spot on.

Perhaps you'd like to consider that perhaps the sentencing bench got the right answer with all the facts in front of them, rather than your second guessing without the facts.

OP - the DVLA has some weird and wonderful rules of its own as well as the judicial punishments (they can for example insist that a doctor certify that you don't have a drink problem). However, I don't know of a way in which they can extend the ban.

On the bright side the court only banned you from driving, not from drinking.


Stu R

21,701 posts

246 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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Today's list of who I'd like to buy a pint:

T Pot
Chrispy Porker
Tea Boy
biglepton

provided they're not driving, of course.

Edited by Stu R on Tuesday 15th January 21:40