No wonder UK is in a mess!
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Mg6b

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6,649 posts

294 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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On 10th January 2008, a person was evicted by Social services from their property because he had become violent to other members in the premises

Last night he was reported to police as vulnerable because he had called his social worker and stated he was self harming and she was worried about his welfare. Police had nowhere to look for him as she stated he had not taken other accomodation and was NFA. He had also stated he was on a Train.

Police start a missing person enquiry with many officers looking for the subject.


Missing person has a phone with him but is refusing to answer.

This morning, the missing person speaks to police on his mobile who are trying to find him. He states he is well and not in danger

Social services tell us that he was making an issue about not having his own flat so started self harming to get more attention, then threatened a child at the address.

He was offered alternative accomodation but refused as he wanted a flat of his own. Aside form his entitlement to free accomodation, he recieved weekly subsistence of £45-£50. Social Services have a legal obligation under 'LEAVING CARE' to oversee his transition in the system to 'signing on' for job seekers allowance, housing benefit etc. He refuses to 'sign on'. His energies appear to be directed towards getting Social Services to provide him with his own flat.ACCOMMODATION IS NOT ENOUGH! He is an asylum seeker from Iran apparently suffering from PTSD and missing his family. He also has mental health issues that will be addressed by Social services when they eventually catch up with him.

How about that for service?
He has graciously agreed to present himself at a police station tomorrow so that we do not spend any more tax payers money trying to locate him and check on his welfare!







Edited by Mg6b on Tuesday 15th January 21:02

s2art

18,942 posts

284 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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So he is just another nutjob. Must be lots of them. Alternatively he is quite smart and has learned to play the system.

wasted years

4,330 posts

240 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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s2art said:
So he is just another nutjob. Must be lots of them. Alternatively he is quite smart and has learned to play the system.
Agreed yes Could be either - the only thing that I can be sure is that I'm part supporting him and his kind furious

deeps

5,432 posts

272 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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Mg6b said:
He was offered alternative accomodation but refused as he wanted a flat of his own // HE REFUSES TO 'SIGN ON'. HIS ENERGIES APPEAR TO BE DIRECTED TOWARDS GETTING SOCIAL SERVICES TO PROVIDE HIM WITH HIS OWN FLAT.
Good post Mg. He shouldn't have the luxury of choice! If he refuses accomodation and work he should be sent home asap. Trouble is they know what a soft touch they're up against, hence they come in droves.

paranha

633 posts

273 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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So what about the parasitic Lawyers who fight to uphold the slime, throwing legal aid at your expence.Pervertion of joke justice from top to arse.

Taita

8,016 posts

234 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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Mg6b said:
On 10th January 2008, a person was evicted by Social services from their property because he had become violent to other members in the premises

Last night he was reported to police as vulnerable because he had called his social worker and stated he was self harming and she was worried about his welfare. Police had nowhere to look for him as she stated he had not taken other accomodation and was NFA. He had also stated he was on a Train.

Police start a missing person enquiry with many officers looking for the subject.


Missing person has a phone with him but is refusing to answer.

This morning, the missing person speaks to police on his mobile who are trying to find him. He states he is well and not in danger

Social services tell us that he was making an issue about not having his own flat so started self harming to get more attention, then threatened a child at the address.

He was offered alternative accomodation but refused as he wanted a flat of his own. Aside form his entitlement to free accomodation, he recieved weekly subsistence of £45-£50. Social Services have a legal obligation under 'LEAVING CARE' to oversee his transition in the system to 'signing on' for job seekers allowance, housing benefit etc. He refuses to 'sign on'. His energies appear to be directed towards getting Social Services to provide him with his own flat.ACCOMMODATION IS NOT ENOUGH! He is an asylum seeker from Iran apparently suffering from PTSD and missing his family. He also has mental health issues that will be addressed by Social services when they eventually catch up with him.

How about that for service?
He has graciously agreed to present himself at a police station tomorrow so that we do not spend any more tax payers money trying to locate him and check on his welfare!



Edited by Mg6b on Tuesday 15th January 21:02
I was beginning to think you where Von in a wig, but now we know you are human wink

If he wants to self harm to get a flat, stick him in a cell for a bit and chuck him the razor.

Derek Smith

50,017 posts

279 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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Mg6b said:
Police start a missing person enquiry with many officers looking for the subject.
My word, how things have changed since I retired from the Job. Many officers looking for a misper? This is a fundamental change of emphasis.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

248 months

Tuesday 15th January 2008
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Derek Smith said:
Mg6b said:
Police start a missing person enquiry with many officers looking for the subject.
My word, how things have changed since I retired from the Job. Many officers looking for a misper? This is a fundamental change of emphasis.
Yep the days of 'give us a ring if they don't turn up in 24hrs' have long gone.

andy400

11,826 posts

262 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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I don't know why we're still calling them 'Asylum Seekers', it's not as if we turf anyone out.

Should be 'Asylum Getters'.

bitwrx

1,352 posts

235 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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Sounds like the chap is struggling a little at the minute. Good job someone's looking out for him.

I hope someone does the same for me if I ever lose the plot.

Man am I ever going to get flamed for that.getmecoat

Big Rod

6,265 posts

247 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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Taita said:
I was beginning to think you where Von in a wig, but now we know you are human wink

If he wants to self harm to get a flat, stick him in a cell for a bit and chuck him the razor.
Seconded!

Plotloss

67,280 posts

301 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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I've never understood why Slough is a honey pot for immigrants.

Of all the places one could choose to seek asylum.

There should be a big sign at J6 of the M4 that says in various languages 'Out of the frying pan...'

streaky

19,311 posts

280 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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Plotloss said:
I've never understood why Slough is a honey pot for immigrants.

Of all the places one could choose to seek asylum.

There should be a big sign at J6 of the M4 that says in various languages 'Out of the frying pan...'
"... of despond" - Streaky

Jasandjules

72,683 posts

260 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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paranha said:
So what about the parasitic Lawyers who fight to uphold the slime, throwing legal aid at your expence.Pervertion of joke justice from top to arse.
To a degree I am inclined to agree with you. But as I have said before, you'd be grateful of that parasite if you're ever accused of say raping and murdering a child, because that parasite will still look to the evidence and make sure you are not convicted if you are innocent, and in some cases make sure you are convicted if you are guilty biggrin

RtdRacer

1,274 posts

232 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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deeps said:
Mg6b said:
He was offered alternative accomodation but refused as he wanted a flat of his own // HE REFUSES TO 'SIGN ON'. HIS ENERGIES APPEAR TO BE DIRECTED TOWARDS GETTING SOCIAL SERVICES TO PROVIDE HIM WITH HIS OWN FLAT.
Good post Mg. He shouldn't have the luxury of choice! If he refuses accomodation and work he should be sent home asap. Trouble is they know what a soft touch they're up against, hence they come in droves.
Even if he's executed the moment he steps off the plane? Or is that not our problem?

Taita

8,016 posts

234 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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RtdRacer said:
deeps said:
Mg6b said:
He was offered alternative accommodation but refused as he wanted a flat of his own // HE REFUSES TO 'SIGN ON'. HIS ENERGIES APPEAR TO BE DIRECTED TOWARDS GETTING SOCIAL SERVICES TO PROVIDE HIM WITH HIS OWN FLAT.
Good post Mg. He shouldn't have the luxury of choice! If he refuses accommodation and work he should be sent home asap. Trouble is they know what a soft touch they're up against, hence they come in droves.
Even if he's executed the moment he steps off the plane? Or is that not our problem?
If he refuses accommodation and work, then it is no longer our problem. We have offered him a viable alternative, using our big pot of coins. What right does he have to our, indeed, my, taxes.

2 sides to every coin however.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

301 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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RtdRacer said:
deeps said:
Mg6b said:
He was offered alternative accomodation but refused as he wanted a flat of his own // HE REFUSES TO 'SIGN ON'. HIS ENERGIES APPEAR TO BE DIRECTED TOWARDS GETTING SOCIAL SERVICES TO PROVIDE HIM WITH HIS OWN FLAT.
Good post Mg. He shouldn't have the luxury of choice! If he refuses accomodation and work he should be sent home asap. Trouble is they know what a soft touch they're up against, hence they come in droves.
Even if he's executed the moment he steps off the plane? Or is that not our problem?
If that is genuinely the case, bearing in mind this chap is from Iran, what was wrong with Turkey, Greece, Italy, Spain, Switzerland, France etc etc why lie between there and here?

Claiming genuine asylum in the UK strikes me as a little bit absurd because presumably you'd stop running when you're safe.

RtdRacer

1,274 posts

232 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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Plotloss said:
RtdRacer said:
Even if he's executed the moment he steps off the plane? Or is that not our problem?
If that is genuinely the case, bearing in mind this chap is from Iran, what was wrong with Turkey, Greece, Italy, Spain, Switzerland, France etc etc why lie between there and here?

Claiming genuine asylum in the UK strikes me as a little bit absurd because presumably you'd stop running when you're safe.
OK, fair point. And there are plenty of other reasons (like he <b>won't</b> actually be executed when he gets home. So you have a process to evaluate the validity of his claim.

Does that make sense?

EU_Foreigner

2,838 posts

257 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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Maybe if the UK would use detention centres only for asylum seekers - that way it is not seen as a free holiday destination. They are still "save" from being shot (wonder if that ever happens anyway)so anything must be better, even when locked up in a centre for the duration of your process. Bet they will look for another destination to go to very promptly then ...


DavidUK

130 posts

228 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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deeps said:
Mg6b said:
He was offered alternative accomodation but refused as he wanted a flat of his own // HE REFUSES TO 'SIGN ON'. HIS ENERGIES APPEAR TO BE DIRECTED TOWARDS GETTING SOCIAL SERVICES TO PROVIDE HIM WITH HIS OWN FLAT.
Good post Mg. He shouldn't have the luxury of choice! If he refuses accomodation and work he should be sent home asap. Trouble is they know what a soft touch they're up against, hence they come in droves.
As seen on a recent tv documentary,nearly all of the illegal immigrants currently holed up in Italy after arriving by sea from various parts of Africa, expressed a desire to eventually make it to the UK. They KNOW we are the softest touch in Europe. Thank you Labour!!