Wrong dated parking ticket, valid?

[XM5ER]

Hypothetically speaking of course , if I were to receive a parking ticket which had the wrong month and year date on it (for example 12th Dec 2007 instead of 12th Jan 2008), would it be valid?

I don't see how it could be as your 28 days to pay option rather goes out of the window. However, if it was ignored what is likely to happen next.

Any thoughts?
Cheers!

[john_r]

Hypothetically I would check your diary where you were on, say for example 12th Dec 2007 instead of 12th Jan 2008, and write to them very politely and prove you could not have been parked there on that date?

Hypothetically of course...

Edited by john_r on Thursday 17th January 17:41

[parapaul]

Hypothetically, I'd do the same. I'd even hypothetically make an entry in my diary for the alleged date if there was nothing there already...

[10 Pence Short]

Just be careful that there aren't date stamped digital photos of the car taken by the warden when it was in-situ, on the date the ticket.

If it went to court it might go against you.

[JustinP1]

10 Pence Short said:

Just be careful that there aren't date stamped digital photos of the car taken by the warden when it was in-situ, on the date the ticket.

If it went to court it might go against you.

But then if the time and date on the photo did not match the accusation, then surely it will be unfounded?

[Dwight VanDriver]

From what stated I would tend to believe that a Parking Adjudicator would consider the PCN to be invalid.

Irrespective of the fact that receipient may well be able to prove elsewhere when contravention occurred whilst a date is shown it is inaccurate in that the 28 days for payment or the non payment Notice to Owner cannot be accurately complied with.

dvd

Edited by Dwight VanDriver on Thursday 17th January 20:59

[XM5ER]

Thanks for the replies. Something to think about.

By the way this hypothetical ticket would have been issued by the local police as (believe it or not) there are no parking wardens round here, so it is pay or go to court (no mention of parking adjudicators).

Does that change matters?

[10 Pence Short]

I'd be surprised if the Police bothered taking digital photos, for a start.

[michaeljclark]

10 Pence Short said:

Just be careful that there aren't date stamped digital photos of the car taken by the warden when it was in-situ, on the date the ticket.

If it went to court it might go against you.

Are the digital cameras calibrated before they leave the parking folks depot - i.e. does someone actually check the date/time on said camera to confirm that it's correct? - sorry for the facetious question – but it’s often asked about speed cameras, so why not ones for parking enforcement!

[esselte]

michaeljclark said:

10 Pence Short said:

Just be careful that there aren't date stamped digital photos of the car taken by the warden when it was in-situ, on the date the ticket.

If it went to court it might go against you.

Are the digital cameras calibrated before they leave the parking folks depot - i.e. does someone actually check the date/time on said camera to confirm that it's correct? - sorry for the facetious question – but it’s often asked about speed cameras, so why not ones for parking enforcement!

Well TBH I can change the date/time on my camera whenever I want to so even if the Traffic Warden (or whatever they're called these days) sets off with the right time/date there's no guarantee that the details printed on the photos are kosher...

Edited by esselte on Friday 18th January 20:15

[Dwight VanDriver]

XM5ER said:

Thanks for the replies. Something to think about.

By the way this hypothetical ticket would have been issued by the local police as (believe it or not) there are no parking wardens round here, so it is pay or go to court (no mention of parking adjudicators).

Does that change matters?

So in this case you will pleading Not Guilty. FPN (not PCN) would be amended into Court file when date error may well be amended. Even if it was not detected and on sumnmons Mags have the power to amend details and carry on.

dvd

[XM5ER]

Dwight VanDriver said:

XM5ER said:

Thanks for the replies. Something to think about.

By the way this hypothetical ticket would have been issued by the local police as (believe it or not) there are no parking wardens round here, so it is pay or go to court (no mention of parking adjudicators).

Does that change matters?

So in this case you will pleading Not Guilty. FPN (not PCN) would be amended into Court file when date error may well be amended. Even if it was not detected and on sumnmons Mags have the power to amend details and carry on.

dvd

Bend over time it is then! Thanks for the info.

[streaky]

Dwight VanDriver said:

XM5ER said:

Thanks for the replies. Something to think about.

By the way this hypothetical ticket would have been issued by the local police as (believe it or not) there are no parking wardens round here, so it is pay or go to court (no mention of parking adjudicators).

Does that change matters?

So in this case you will pleading Not Guilty. FPN (not PCN) would be amended into Court file when date error may well be amended. Even if it was not detected and on sumnmons Mags have the power to amend details and carry on.

dvd

Amended to what and verified against what? "Oh, no, sorry, that's the wrong date. Now, when was it? Hmm, let me see now ... . Thursday? No, that's when I went to the proctologist to have a verucca removed. Tuesday? Might have been; was it raining on Tuesday, Your Worship? I don't go out on patrol when it's raining." - Streaky