Grrrr... Too many choices!

Grrrr... Too many choices!

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Bassfiend

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5,530 posts

251 months

Thursday 17th July 2003
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OK - Has anyone ever been able to come up with a reasonable estimation in the difference in performance between an "average" 4.0, an "average" 4.0HC, and "average" 4.5 and an "average" 5.0.

At the moment there's a couple of private sale 450's and 500's around that are at the higher end of the allowable toy budget and the possibility of a 4.0HC which would leave enough budget for doing up the kitchen *AND* the bathroom!

Just trying to get a handle on whether I'd be dissapointed with the performance of a 4.0HC against a 450 (haven't driven a 500 yet).

Phil

shpub

8,507 posts

273 months

Thursday 17th July 2003
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500 is warp drive 9
450 is warp drive 8
400HC is warp drive 7.5
400 is warp drive 7.

Everything else is impulse power!

raceboy

13,129 posts

281 months

Thursday 17th July 2003
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And it kind of depends what your coming out of car wise, if you've not driven anything quick and RWD nothings going to disapoint and in 'real world' driving theres not that much real difference

jeremyc

23,563 posts

285 months

Thursday 17th July 2003
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If in doubt go for the 500, otherwise you'll always be wondering what you're missing.

full_chat

285 posts

277 months

Thursday 17th July 2003
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I am very happy with my 450, on the odd occasion I want a bit more power I think I would rather try a TVR engine rather than go for a 5.0 litre model. Not quite sure if I could put the reason into words but that is just how I feel!

Bassfiend

Original Poster:

5,530 posts

251 months

Thursday 17th July 2003
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shpub : You *REALLY* need to get out more! Yoo much Star Trek can make you blind...

raceboy : Well at the moment I have a Vulva V40 1.9Tdi estate but I used to have a *REALLY* quick pre-cat 200SX Nissan that used to turn in 7mpg at times! I've driven some fairly "exotic" stuff in my time though - Countach, F550 Maranello, Rally prepped Lancia Stratos.

jeremyc : I can really relate to what you're saying and that's one of my worries.

fullchat : The 450 that I took out at Fernies at the weekend I actually got out of and thought "F*ck that was quick" - hadn't thought that in any of the ones I drove before.

Ghhhhaaaaarrrrr!

Maybe I should just buy another Volvo? Oh no - I *HAVE* to get a Tiv now coz I have two of Valhallas stickers that would go to waste otherwise!

Phil

MikeyT

16,584 posts

272 months

Thursday 17th July 2003
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That 4.0HC sounds the one to get ... more than enough useable power for our roads ...

Also, Dolphin are doing some lovely colours at present and as for those Magnet kitchens ... what colours they've got ...

:twistingtheknife:

>> Edited by MikeyT on Thursday 17th July 20:18

tonyrec

3,984 posts

256 months

Thursday 17th July 2003
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Whats wrong with the 4ltr ?

If you want real performance .....by a Mclaren...!

Phil...you have mail

>> Edited by tonyrec on Thursday 17th July 20:23

bob the planner

4,695 posts

270 months

Thursday 17th July 2003
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Bassfiend said:
...The 450 that I took out at Fernies at the weekend I actually got out of and thought "F*ck that was quick" - hadn't thought that in any of the ones I drove before.

...



Phil,

That sounds like the one then. When I was thinking upgrade from 4.0, I took a couple of 5l out for a drive and they felt no quicker than my 4.0GF. I think you can get some dogs but when you drive a good'n you know. It just feels right. (BTW I ended up with a Tuscan)

Bob

Editted to get the quote right - doh!

>> Edited by bob the planner on Thursday 17th July 20:25

bassfiend

Original Poster:

5,530 posts

251 months

Thursday 17th July 2003
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bob : Yeah - felt lovely but was over my budget and wifey's insisting that the kitchen and bathroom get done too (she's also hounding me for another sprog too )

Blue-V8-Thunder : Nope ... the stickers *WILL* be used!!!

Tonyrec : You must be chuffed as buggery - yer baby looks lovely in her new coat.

MikeyT : Dunno what you mean...

Phil

the jiffle king

6,922 posts

259 months

Thursday 17th July 2003
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I might be being simplistic, but drive a few and try them and then decide. I came from 1.2 Clio to 4litres, and it is enough for me (For the time being), but I tried 12 before deciding, including a couple of HC and a very poor 4.5.

T-J-K


>> Edited by the jiffle king on Friday 18th July 07:52

bassfiend

Original Poster:

5,530 posts

251 months

Thursday 17th July 2003
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No that's what I would like to do but there is a limit to the amount of cars you can realistically try before Fernies get the hump and lob me out!

I'd love to get a few different ones "under the belt" but basically I don't like following up Chimps for sale unless I'm actually seriously contemplating it.

Phil

simpo one

85,628 posts

266 months

Thursday 17th July 2003
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I think Raceboy has it: 'it kind of depends what your coming out of car wise, if you've not driven anything quick and RWD nothings going to disapoint and in 'real world' driving theres not that much real difference'.

You really do have to try it. Start with testdriving a 4.0 and if you're coming from an 'ordinary' car it will blow your socks off. Plus, you get some change, lower running costs and you can always upgrade later when you've got used to the power. You may find that a certain colour combination/condition clinches it over engine size.

Mark.S

473 posts

278 months

Friday 18th July 2003
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bob the planner said:

When I was thinking upgrade from 4.0, I took a couple of 5l out for a drive and they felt no quicker than my 4.0GF.


You really need some time to explore the differences between the two. For weeks after upgrading I drove around with my tongue hanging out when the chances arose to open the throttle. Motorway speeds were where I noticed the differences most.

That said, even the first test drive in a 500 was a seat of the pants experience!

IPAddis

2,471 posts

285 months

Friday 18th July 2003
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shpub said:
500 is warp drive 9
450 is warp drive 8
400HC is warp drive 7.5
400 is warp drive 7.

Everything else is impulse power!


Presumably a Cerbera is warp drive 10 and the 520 is warp drive 11 (it goes one more!).