What's needed to get into the used car industry?

What's needed to get into the used car industry?

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Carpie

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1,118 posts

209 months

Saturday 19th January 2008
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Hi,

After a bit of advice if anyone could help me out.

I'm 19 and in my second year of A levels, taking Biology, Chemistry and ICT, looking at getting AAA-AAB in them. I have applied to uni, for management (some courses are management and marketing). Applied to Bath, Royal Holloway, Aston, Cardiff.

I definately want to work in the automotive industry, and I would prefer to be on the sales side. However my main interest lies in used cars, especially exotics and high performance. What qualifications or experience would one need to work in these kind of showrooms?

Would a business degree be useful, or would employers prefer experience (I could work part time at a dealer during uni?)?

I have retail sales experience, I am outgoing and friendly with good interpersonal skills and I think I have the correct kind of mindset and image for the job (feel more comfortable in a suit and brogues than jeans and a t shirt like my friends!). I think I have a sharp business acumen, my parents run their own business and I have learnt a lot from them.

I am fascinated by the used car market, spend a lot of time with the CAP Black Book and down the local auctions. Have been to proper BCA auctions in Blackbushe.

My dream is to have my own company dealing cars. I see so many locally (South Wales) that are simply so poorly run: forecourt is dirty and dull, cars aren't displayed to the best of their potential, no website or very poorly designed one with poor quality photos of the stock wedged in between other cars, etc. Yet I assume they're turning over a profit as the stock does seem to move on and they have been trading a long time.

I know I could do better given the chance, but simply don't have the funds to get started, and I'm unlikely to get finance to do so as I'm young with little experience or qualifications, all the small business loans want property owners as security.

Thanks,
Matt

KingRichard

10,146 posts

246 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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You're not going to fall into a job selling Fezza's and Lambo's to playboys without the right contacts - get yourself up to the festival of speed, the revival and what not and start building a bit of a network, start putting buyers with sellers for a small commission or something, be smart! You don't need money to make money! cool

E36GUY

5,906 posts

232 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2008
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If you're spending time at the auctions why not just start there? Speculative here but buy one car for say £5k, sell it for 6 or 7 if you are buying right (get something that will sell, not something that you would buy for example). Put your profit in the bank. Take your original £5k and do it again and build it from there.

I'd do this a little if I had anywhere to park/keep cars that I could buy at auction but unfortunately it's impossible where I live.

Carpie

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1,118 posts

209 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2008
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Would love to do that, think about it all the time, just don't have the couple of grand to do so. I have bought a few cars from auction and sold them on, made a profit each time, but I'm talking £600 cars and selling them for £800-1000. At the moment don't really have any funds at all.

MentalSarcasm

6,083 posts

225 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2008
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Random post, but Royal Holloway is a lovely campus ^_^ Oh, and there's a Maserati dealership down the road so you'd have something to go and stare at during the weekend.

GTO Scott

3,816 posts

238 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2008
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Carpie said:
Would love to do that, think about it all the time, just don't have the couple of grand to do so. I have bought a few cars from auction and sold them on, made a profit each time, but I'm talking £600 cars and selling them for £800-1000. At the moment don't really have any funds at all.
Selling 10 cars for £200 profit a time is £2000 profit. Start small, work up wink With £2000 you could start picking up cars for £1200 that are worth £1800 (rough example). If you're willing to get your hands dirty and rectify minor faults, (cracked headlamps, crushed bumpers, needs a service, etc,) the potential to buy low and sell high is even better.

Thats what i'm starting to do - I hate the filthy forecourt look as well. On the look out for a workshop to expand into at the moment.....

Carpie

Original Poster:

1,118 posts

209 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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Yeah gonna do that once I've got a bit of cash together.

Haven't actually been to Holloway, but it looks beautiful on the photos!

Cheers,
Matt

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

238 months

Saturday 2nd February 2008
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Many small garages will go through this year, the credit crunch means less people approved for credit. If you buy trade ins from garages you will need to be vat registered something to bear in mind. A lot of auctions are following this trend iv noticed, ie you have to be vat registered to buy from them, the old days of buying cheap cars and selling them on and making a few quid are probably over to be fair. If you sell from home you WILL have a visit from HMRC, council etc or similar, which basically means if you do everything properly you will be running a legit business with all associated costs and youl be up against thousands of other small traders and forecourts.

driverrob

4,800 posts

217 months

Saturday 2nd February 2008
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If you come to BCA Blackbushe, Matt. Say 'hello'. I'll be the one in the hi-vis jacket and PH woolly hat (until the weather improves a lot).

WMW

370 posts

265 months

Friday 29th February 2008
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why not contact Mark at Dove House Motor Company, (Rushden) they are looking for a part time / apprentice and they do sell a lot of exotic cars, details on their news page.

Ordinary Bloke

4,559 posts

212 months

Friday 29th February 2008
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A sheepskin jacket and a sense of humour...

KingRichard

10,146 posts

246 months

Saturday 1st March 2008
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Ordinary Bloke said:
A sheepskin jacket and a sense of humour...
rofl

Or a sharp suit and a bad moustache wink


Ordinary Bloke

4,559 posts

212 months

Sunday 2nd March 2008
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Selling a car is like making love to a beautiful lady...

...first you have to etc etc

The Black Duke

1,642 posts

207 months

Thursday 20th March 2008
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I think balls the size of rugby balls helps and good contact. Matt you need no qualifications though mate just need to be good with a calculator and remember its not what you can buy the car for its what you can sell it for afterwards is important.
Good luck

Rusty Moskvitch

22 posts

212 months

Thursday 27th March 2008
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I have a cousin who started by buying/fixing and selling on motorbikes while he was an apprentice car machanic / pannel beater. He graduated to second hand cars and then started his own repairs and body shop. That began about 30 years ago. He has done well and at one time also owned a couple of houses abroad. I think he's scaling down to retirement now.