gatso detection and playing them at thier own game
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just a thought i had the other day, i don't know if it is actually possible, please comment if any ones knows
my understanding of gatso cameras is they sent out continual radar waves that then use the doppler effect ie the change in frequency of the returned radar to calculate speed, and to get evidence, they trigger the double flash and mr policeman gets a nice photo of the back of your car.
my idea is this, place on the front of the car a radar transmitter, beaming out radar waves of the same frequncy that a gatso gets back if the car was doing say 100mph, being aimed down and forwards of the car, the gatso, which must be pretty sensitive to pick up the scatter, then thinks that there is a whole queue of traffic doing 100 plus whatever you're doing ( as the doppler would work that way as well) the result, one very expnsive strobe light.
so you would drive along then suddenly the gatso in front of you would go into strobe light mode, alerting you to it's presence and allowing you to slow down, it would work even betterif you had cars in front to bounce the radar off. Not only would the strobe effect alert you to an active camera, but it would waste huge amounts of film which they would pay to get developed only to show empty roads and cars doing the correct speed when compared with the calibration lines in the road, i don't know but even if you didn't slow down, then your false signal to the gatso should make it claim they you're going much faster, so the radar speed and the photographs would show inconsitent data and they couldn't do you ( my undertsanding being the reason for the lines in the road is so that they have two forms of data showing what speed you were doing, which they need to prosecute you)
obviously it would be branded evil etc, but the company line would be, well it's just showing you were the cameras are to remind you to check your speed, just like the reason they paint them yellow
any comments?
pk
my understanding of gatso cameras is they sent out continual radar waves that then use the doppler effect ie the change in frequency of the returned radar to calculate speed, and to get evidence, they trigger the double flash and mr policeman gets a nice photo of the back of your car.
my idea is this, place on the front of the car a radar transmitter, beaming out radar waves of the same frequncy that a gatso gets back if the car was doing say 100mph, being aimed down and forwards of the car, the gatso, which must be pretty sensitive to pick up the scatter, then thinks that there is a whole queue of traffic doing 100 plus whatever you're doing ( as the doppler would work that way as well) the result, one very expnsive strobe light.
so you would drive along then suddenly the gatso in front of you would go into strobe light mode, alerting you to it's presence and allowing you to slow down, it would work even betterif you had cars in front to bounce the radar off. Not only would the strobe effect alert you to an active camera, but it would waste huge amounts of film which they would pay to get developed only to show empty roads and cars doing the correct speed when compared with the calibration lines in the road, i don't know but even if you didn't slow down, then your false signal to the gatso should make it claim they you're going much faster, so the radar speed and the photographs would show inconsitent data and they couldn't do you ( my undertsanding being the reason for the lines in the road is so that they have two forms of data showing what speed you were doing, which they need to prosecute you)
obviously it would be branded evil etc, but the company line would be, well it's just showing you were the cameras are to remind you to check your speed, just like the reason they paint them yellow
any comments?
pk
Pesty said:
burning the fcukers would be more satisfying
Nah, just mount a tin can on a string and stand in front of the camera whilst whirling the can round your head. Whirl the can fast enough and smile for the camera
(this *should* work). Actually wear a "Tony B'liar" mask whilst doing this, and really confuse the camera operators
lol I would try that if I lived near one
I'm not far away from a truvelo here in Telford Its been got to before and repaired. its very very low compaired to others I have seen must be vulnerable.
It there a way of setting these things off? can you get to the wires going under the road?
I'm not far away from a truvelo here in Telford Its been got to before and repaired. its very very low compaired to others I have seen must be vulnerable.
It there a way of setting these things off? can you get to the wires going under the road?
What you need is a Directional Microwave EMP Rifle or Military Magnetron. www.plans-kits.com/kits/index.html
A device such as this can be made the size of a super soaker water gun, it operates at 9.2GHz and with a properly tuned horn antenna will have an effective range of over 300 yards (possibly more with larger antenna). Such a device could possibly cause semiconductors to burn out, microprocessors to malfunction, inductors to counter induce and create CEMF, induce RF noise, cause ionization of air or gases, cause junction rectification and erase computer data on hard drives, disk and solid state device.
Connect this to a standard Radar detector or laser detection system and you'll not only find the cameras but knock them out at the same time.
Disclaimer - I have no idea what I'm talking about and was given these details and the website link above by a giant white rabbit called Harvey.
A device such as this can be made the size of a super soaker water gun, it operates at 9.2GHz and with a properly tuned horn antenna will have an effective range of over 300 yards (possibly more with larger antenna). Such a device could possibly cause semiconductors to burn out, microprocessors to malfunction, inductors to counter induce and create CEMF, induce RF noise, cause ionization of air or gases, cause junction rectification and erase computer data on hard drives, disk and solid state device.
Connect this to a standard Radar detector or laser detection system and you'll not only find the cameras but knock them out at the same time.
Disclaimer - I have no idea what I'm talking about and was given these details and the website link above by a giant white rabbit called Harvey.
better not to have it near your or any one elses car. Ive just had a look at that web site
there is a kit that seems to be able to take out electrical devises with an emp from 6 foot away. the kit costs $30 and fits in you pocket.
Veerrry interesting Mu hA ha
edited to add what a fcuking mess one of those would make to a scamrera van especialy if they have the engine on for the air con van and camera fcuked up beyond economical repair in seconds.
>> Edited by Pesty on Saturday 19th July 23:29
there is a kit that seems to be able to take out electrical devises with an emp from 6 foot away. the kit costs $30 and fits in you pocket.
Veerrry interesting Mu hA ha
edited to add what a fcuking mess one of those would make to a scamrera van especialy if they have the engine on for the air con
van and camera fcuked up beyond economical repair in seconds. >> Edited by Pesty on Saturday 19th July 23:29
Interesting stuff indeed how about the "GARAGE DOOR CODE FINDER This kit works very well. It will open almost all major brands of electronic garage doors on the market operating within the 300-312MHz band. This device is newly revised using preassembled modules for easy construction and greater accuracy. It operates at 12-bits. This kit allows for future upgrading by adding more transmitter modules for multiple frequency operation. This device will also bypass the new smart chip technology (code changer chip). It scans all possible codes within 7-12 minutes. Range is between 100-300 feet."
Better lock your electric garage doors as well!!
LMM
Better lock your electric garage doors as well!!
LMM
Just need to find out if the GATSO is X or Ka band. You then appropriate a microwave doppler module with its horn antenna. (as in burglar alarms). Fit an high frequency ramped voltage source and Robert's your mother's brother...
No doubt it would only result in an NIP for "Mach 2.2 and accelerating...."
Now that would be a hanging offence
No doubt it would only result in an NIP for "Mach 2.2 and accelerating...."
Now that would be a hanging offence
It is of course illegal. You need a radio transmission license to be able to do something like this. Plus the licenses are based on the frequency you will use. That is why HAM operators need to go through all those exams. You even need one for a CB radio (although I guess alot of people don't bother).
Someone in Hendon go prosecuted for selling devices like this. Not under the Wireless Telegraphy Act, but because they didn't do what he claimed. He got done under the Trades Descrptions Act.
If you are going to break a law, attaching something to your car advertising that you are doing so, is a good way to get caught.
Simon
If you are going to break a law, attaching something to your car advertising that you are doing so, is a good way to get caught.
Simon
ATG said:
EMF kit is cool, but often impratical as it is highly recommended that you wrap tin foil round the old chap and run an earthing strap down the trouser before operating.
although last time I looked my old chap didn't have any electronics........ 
starts thinking about fitting some that will work with a remote button Apache said:
EMF kit is cool, but often impratical as it is highly recommended that you wrap tin foil round the old chap and run an earthing strap down the trouser before operating.
If you used it whilst it's in your trouser pocket your "old chap" probably wouldn't have working bo11ocks either!
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