Gatsos and lines in the road
Discussion
Hi,
I have just been flashed twice a little while after going through a Gatso.
Its a 40 limit and I was in the inside lane and went throught the lines in the road at exactly 40. Just after the lines had finished, I perhaps sped up to no more than 45 leptons and saw "flash, flash" in my rear-view mirror.
Are the lines in the road necessary for a conviction or can the powers that be simply say that I set the camera off so I will get a fine and 3 points?
Cheers,
L33.
I have just been flashed twice a little while after going through a Gatso.
Its a 40 limit and I was in the inside lane and went throught the lines in the road at exactly 40. Just after the lines had finished, I perhaps sped up to no more than 45 leptons and saw "flash, flash" in my rear-view mirror.
Are the lines in the road necessary for a conviction or can the powers that be simply say that I set the camera off so I will get a fine and 3 points?
Cheers,
L33.
carrotchomper said:
streaky said:
The lines are used to confirm the speed. If there is no confirmation, you might not get an offer to contribute to someone's pension fund - Streaky
Who's pension fund does it go to? Pray tell...
L33 said:
Are the lines in the road necessary for a conviction..
Strictly speaking, no they're not.Whilst a secondary check of the vehicle's measured speed is a strict evidential requirement, this can be achieved without the presence of painted timing marks.
If your vehicle did trigger the unit, and assuming that a camera was present (and loaded with film), then the scammers would be required to serve a notice of intended prosecution on the registered keeper of the vehicle within 14 calendar days.
SS2. said:
L33 said:
Are the lines in the road necessary for a conviction..
Strictly speaking, no they're not.Whilst a secondary check of the vehicle's measured speed is a strict evidential requirement, this can be achieved without the presence of painted timing marks.
If your vehicle did trigger the unit, and assuming that a camera was present (and loaded with film), then the scammers would be required to serve a notice of intended prosecution on the registered keeper of the vehicle within 14 calendar days.
L33 said:
If I am over the painted lines, how can they tell my speed and even suggest I was speeding?
By using photogrammetry to determine the distance travelled between the two photographs. The Gatso Type 24 originally obtained Home Office approval without the painted timing marks forming part of the secondary check. But these photogrammetry checks were so labour intensive that the police sought agreement from the HO to use the graduated timing marks as an alternative.
L33 said:
Hi,
I have just been flashed twice a little while after going through a Gatso.
Its a 40 limit and I was in the inside lane and went throught the lines in the road at exactly 40. Just after the lines had finished, I perhaps sped up to no more than 45 leptons and saw "flash, flash" in my rear-view mirror.
Are the lines in the road necessary for a conviction or can the powers that be simply say that I set the camera off so I will get a fine and 3 points?
Cheers,
L33.
If you were past the lines, you won't be in either photograph. I have just been flashed twice a little while after going through a Gatso.
Its a 40 limit and I was in the inside lane and went throught the lines in the road at exactly 40. Just after the lines had finished, I perhaps sped up to no more than 45 leptons and saw "flash, flash" in my rear-view mirror.
Are the lines in the road necessary for a conviction or can the powers that be simply say that I set the camera off so I will get a fine and 3 points?
Cheers,
L33.
If you do get an NIP through the post, ask for the photos, go back and measure the distance between the lines (they'll be either 5ft or 2m)look at both photos and see how many lines you've passed, and from that you can calculate your speed.
Anyway, as I said, if you were past the lines, you won't be in the the photos. Also the trigger threashold is usually about 8-9 mph above the limit and your speedo over-reads by 10% so you were probably doing 40 anyway.
It was probably a following car or an approaching car that set it off.
SS2. said:
L33 said:
Are the lines in the road necessary for a conviction..
Strictly speaking, no they're not.Whilst a secondary check of the vehicle's measured speed is a strict evidential requirement, this can be achieved without the presence of painted timing marks.
But if that is the case, then why don't tickets arrive through the post when I set off a camera going the opposite direction? Just because I'm travelling the opposite direction doesn't change the speed calculation.
broadhat said:
But if that is the case, then why don't tickets arrive through the post when I set off a camera going the opposite direction? Just because I'm travelling the opposite direction doesn't change the speed calculation.
I don't think they're type approved to prosecute oncoming traffic?BonzoGuinness said:
broadhat said:
But if that is the case, then why don't tickets arrive through the post when I set off a camera going the opposite direction? Just because I'm travelling the opposite direction doesn't change the speed calculation.
I don't think they're type approved to prosecute oncoming traffic?Mods! How about a sticky/FAQ on cameras?
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