Seats for a Fury
Discussion
Shamelessly double posted here and on the kit cars page for greater exposure!
I currently have fibreglass shell seats with some simple padding for road use, which is removable for the track. With it removed my head (even without a helmet) is only marginally below the level of the top of the hoop on the roll bar, and significantly above a line between it and the top of the front suspension turrets.
Speaking to my neighbour the other day he mentioned some mouldable foam seats which could be mounted only marginally above floor level while still providing decent support. Does anyone have any more information about these; a brief trawl of tinternet has drawn a blank.
I currently have fibreglass shell seats with some simple padding for road use, which is removable for the track. With it removed my head (even without a helmet) is only marginally below the level of the top of the hoop on the roll bar, and significantly above a line between it and the top of the front suspension turrets.
Speaking to my neighbour the other day he mentioned some mouldable foam seats which could be mounted only marginally above floor level while still providing decent support. Does anyone have any more information about these; a brief trawl of tinternet has drawn a blank.
Edited by hugh_ on Tuesday 29th January 23:01
He is probably talking about the kit you get from Demon Tweeks to make your own, custom fit seat from.
You might have seen it on TV when there is a driver change in an endurance race and they pull out a black, shapeless lump from the seat...thats what this kit makes.
Basically you get a big bag.
Squirt some of the expanding foam / liquid polystyrene type goop in to the bag.
Chuck it in the car and sit on it and squish the foam thats in there to where you want it while it expands.
Squirt more foam in to build up the support where you want it.
Get your hoover and suck the air out of the bag and stay seated until it sets.
Cover in black race tape or upholster it if you wish.
Well thats how I have seen it done anyway...
I dont think the foam would be strong enough to support you on its own...normally it is used within a seat shell and is really just to fill out the gaps around a waif like professional driver so he/she is held solid within the car.
Is your seat on a sliding rail? Does anyone else drive the car?
Might be worth looking in to junking the rails and bolting the seat directly to the floor or look at modifiying the seat rails so you sit lower. Just means if anyone else is going to drive you need to have a few positions to be able to move the seat around and everytime you swap you need to unbolt it and move it.
You might have seen it on TV when there is a driver change in an endurance race and they pull out a black, shapeless lump from the seat...thats what this kit makes.
Basically you get a big bag.
Squirt some of the expanding foam / liquid polystyrene type goop in to the bag.
Chuck it in the car and sit on it and squish the foam thats in there to where you want it while it expands.
Squirt more foam in to build up the support where you want it.
Get your hoover and suck the air out of the bag and stay seated until it sets.
Cover in black race tape or upholster it if you wish.
Well thats how I have seen it done anyway...
I dont think the foam would be strong enough to support you on its own...normally it is used within a seat shell and is really just to fill out the gaps around a waif like professional driver so he/she is held solid within the car.
Is your seat on a sliding rail? Does anyone else drive the car?
Might be worth looking in to junking the rails and bolting the seat directly to the floor or look at modifiying the seat rails so you sit lower. Just means if anyone else is going to drive you need to have a few positions to be able to move the seat around and everytime you swap you need to unbolt it and move it.
You can get 2 pack foam from Cornwall Fibreglass Supplies.
Some good instructions can be found here.
It is sufficiently strong to use without a seat shell if you mould it to the sides and back of your cockpit. You'll need quite a lot to do that though so I'd get at least the 5kg pack.
Some good instructions can be found here.
It is sufficiently strong to use without a seat shell if you mould it to the sides and back of your cockpit. You'll need quite a lot to do that though so I'd get at least the 5kg pack.
deviant said:
He is probably talking about the kit you get from Demon Tweeks to make your own, custom fit seat from.
You might have seen it on TV when there is a driver change in an endurance race and they pull out a black, shapeless lump from the seat...thats what this kit makes.
Basically you get a big bag.
Squirt some of the expanding foam / liquid polystyrene type goop in to the bag.
Chuck it in the car and sit on it and squish the foam thats in there to where you want it while it expands.
Squirt more foam in to build up the support where you want it.
Get your hoover and suck the air out of the bag and stay seated until it sets.
Cover in black race tape or upholster it if you wish.
Well thats how I have seen it done anyway...
I dont think the foam would be strong enough to support you on its own...normally it is used within a seat shell and is really just to fill out the gaps around a waif like professional driver so he/she is held solid within the car.
Is your seat on a sliding rail? Does anyone else drive the car?
Might be worth looking in to junking the rails and bolting the seat directly to the floor or look at modifiying the seat rails so you sit lower. Just means if anyone else is going to drive you need to have a few positions to be able to move the seat around and everytime you swap you need to unbolt it and move it.
I think you have described two methods in one!You might have seen it on TV when there is a driver change in an endurance race and they pull out a black, shapeless lump from the seat...thats what this kit makes.
Basically you get a big bag.
Squirt some of the expanding foam / liquid polystyrene type goop in to the bag.
Chuck it in the car and sit on it and squish the foam thats in there to where you want it while it expands.
Squirt more foam in to build up the support where you want it.
Get your hoover and suck the air out of the bag and stay seated until it sets.
Cover in black race tape or upholster it if you wish.
Well thats how I have seen it done anyway...
I dont think the foam would be strong enough to support you on its own...normally it is used within a seat shell and is really just to fill out the gaps around a waif like professional driver so he/she is held solid within the car.
Is your seat on a sliding rail? Does anyone else drive the car?
Might be worth looking in to junking the rails and bolting the seat directly to the floor or look at modifiying the seat rails so you sit lower. Just means if anyone else is going to drive you need to have a few positions to be able to move the seat around and everytime you swap you need to unbolt it and move it.
The "squidge foam in" method is done with two part expanding foam and a big bag. It's a bit hit and miss. You have to be in a good position and support yourself there while the foam sets. You can make up too much foam and you get a big mess that DOES NOT clean off anything. You can do too little whiich can be added to although that's quite tricky. You can screw up the mixing of the two part foam and have a seat that shrinks! It can be done though and is pretty cheap.
The Indy seat is a big bag of beads. You sit in it, get comfy and suck out the air. Then you make sure you are comfy and you can adjust it and even start from scratch if you want. When you are happy, you put in the gloop that makes it set. No mess, every chance of getting it right. Much more expensive.
However, back to the OP's question...that lot will do you no good as your head is too high even sitting on the floor. You need to get a higher bar if you actually want safety.
Bert
Made plenty of expanding foam seats in my time (and driven thousands of miles in them) - excellent!
Other alternatives are a dropped floor, taller roll bar or a full cage.
Other than that, can you move the pedals forward? - If you can and you make up an expanding foam seat you can probably get your head lower.
Other alternatives are a dropped floor, taller roll bar or a full cage.
Other than that, can you move the pedals forward? - If you can and you make up an expanding foam seat you can probably get your head lower.
Edited by Yob Tar on Thursday 31st January 00:54
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