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Not sure whether thats a good price for him or the buyer. No dealers to ask anymore what the going price is.
My list of needed bits for my burnt out engine is growing.
Fuel rail, injectors, regulator
Alternator, belts, coil packs
timing chain tensioners and pretty much every seal in the engine
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Not sure whether I have an engine here or just a bucket of spares?
My list of needed bits for my burnt out engine is growing.
Fuel rail, injectors, regulator
Alternator, belts, coil packs
timing chain tensioners and pretty much every seal in the engine
.Not sure whether I have an engine here or just a bucket of spares?
Fuel rail, injectors, regulator
Tricky bit and you may have lost out on that auction as the Injectors alone are that although you can get these from any fuel equipment supplier.
Alternator, belts, coil packs
Easu off the shelf parts.
timing chain tensioners and pretty much every seal in the engine
Tricky one again is the tensioners, there are very few seals in these engine, head gaskets and inlet manifold/Throttle bodies are the only ones you should need to get the rest will be sealant.
Be carefull playing with the burnt engine though, I think the TVR engine was too old to be using Viton but touch any of that with bare skin and you are in very serious sh1t!!! Injector o-rings are a usual place for this.
Tricky bit and you may have lost out on that auction as the Injectors alone are that although you can get these from any fuel equipment supplier.
Alternator, belts, coil packs
Easu off the shelf parts.
timing chain tensioners and pretty much every seal in the engine
Tricky one again is the tensioners, there are very few seals in these engine, head gaskets and inlet manifold/Throttle bodies are the only ones you should need to get the rest will be sealant.
Be carefull playing with the burnt engine though, I think the TVR engine was too old to be using Viton but touch any of that with bare skin and you are in very serious sh1t!!! Injector o-rings are a usual place for this.
I have a spare fuel rail for a 4.2 and a set of injectors, i think it can be modded to fit the 4.5 with the addition of changing the inlet fannymoulds... i seem to remember a chat with someone 'in the know' that this is the way forward as the 4.2 fuel system is actually better than the 4.5.
also have a spare timing chain and tensioners as well as oil pick-up pipes and a few other bits and bobs including the very early type sump.
if interested drop me a line with yer mobile number...it may be a day or so before i get back to you as I've just taken on a new pub and 'tinterweb' is connected yet.
ps. got the cerb back from the lads at automedon last week...not even had a chance to drive it yet but first impressions is that they have done a truely fantastic job...paintwork looks stunning and it goes like stink.
Dave at automedon
'F**kin' Hell Cooky...you were right this is a quick one...even Col took it for a blast and was pleasently surprised'.
thanks guys, the Cerb looks a peach and so far is a pleasure to drive.
also have a spare timing chain and tensioners as well as oil pick-up pipes and a few other bits and bobs including the very early type sump.
if interested drop me a line with yer mobile number...it may be a day or so before i get back to you as I've just taken on a new pub and 'tinterweb' is connected yet.
ps. got the cerb back from the lads at automedon last week...not even had a chance to drive it yet but first impressions is that they have done a truely fantastic job...paintwork looks stunning and it goes like stink.
Dave at automedon
'F**kin' Hell Cooky...you were right this is a quick one...even Col took it for a blast and was pleasently surprised'.
thanks guys, the Cerb looks a peach and so far is a pleasure to drive.

ridds said:
Fuel rail, injectors, regulator
Tricky bit and you may have lost out on that auction as the Injectors alone are that although you can get these from any fuel equipment supplier.
Alternator, belts, coil packs
Easu off the shelf parts.
timing chain tensioners and pretty much every seal in the engine
Tricky one again is the tensioners, there are very few seals in these engine, head gaskets and inlet manifold/Throttle bodies are the only ones you should need to get the rest will be sealant.
Be carefull playing with the burnt engine though, I think the TVR engine was too old to be using Viton but touch any of that with bare skin and you are in very serious sh1t!!! Injector o-rings are a usual place for this.
Why can you not touch Viton with bare skin then? I used to use Viton O-Rings all the time and there is no problem touching them. In fact you can get Viton gloves.Tricky bit and you may have lost out on that auction as the Injectors alone are that although you can get these from any fuel equipment supplier.
Alternator, belts, coil packs
Easu off the shelf parts.
timing chain tensioners and pretty much every seal in the engine
Tricky one again is the tensioners, there are very few seals in these engine, head gaskets and inlet manifold/Throttle bodies are the only ones you should need to get the rest will be sealant.
Be carefull playing with the burnt engine though, I think the TVR engine was too old to be using Viton but touch any of that with bare skin and you are in very serious sh1t!!! Injector o-rings are a usual place for this.
cerbfan said:
ridds said:
Fuel rail, injectors, regulator
Tricky bit and you may have lost out on that auction as the Injectors alone are that although you can get these from any fuel equipment supplier.
Alternator, belts, coil packs
Easu off the shelf parts.
timing chain tensioners and pretty much every seal in the engine
Tricky one again is the tensioners, there are very few seals in these engine, head gaskets and inlet manifold/Throttle bodies are the only ones you should need to get the rest will be sealant.
Be carefull playing with the burnt engine though, I think the TVR engine was too old to be using Viton but touch any of that with bare skin and you are in very serious sh1t!!! Injector o-rings are a usual place for this.
Why can you not touch Viton with bare skin then? I used to use Viton O-Rings all the time and there is no problem touching them. In fact you can get Viton gloves.Tricky bit and you may have lost out on that auction as the Injectors alone are that although you can get these from any fuel equipment supplier.
Alternator, belts, coil packs
Easu off the shelf parts.
timing chain tensioners and pretty much every seal in the engine
Tricky one again is the tensioners, there are very few seals in these engine, head gaskets and inlet manifold/Throttle bodies are the only ones you should need to get the rest will be sealant.
Be carefull playing with the burnt engine though, I think the TVR engine was too old to be using Viton but touch any of that with bare skin and you are in very serious sh1t!!! Injector o-rings are a usual place for this.

Viton is a Trade name registered by Du Pont, you get O rings made from Nitrile, Buna-N or Viton - It's very resistant to heat, but......
There is a remote risk of sustaining chemical burns from Viton® O-rings if they are burned or otherwise exposed to temperatures above 600ºF. Viton® begins to decompose above 600ºF, yielding some nasty compounds including hydrogen fluoride. In the presence of water vapor, this can produce hydrofluoric acid, an extremely corrosive mineral acid which causes severe burns to exposed skin. Proper protective gear should be warn when dealing with burned Viton®. There is no danger in dealing with cured Viton® used within the rated temperature range.
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There is a remote risk of sustaining chemical burns from Viton® O-rings if they are burned or otherwise exposed to temperatures above 600ºF. Viton® begins to decompose above 600ºF, yielding some nasty compounds including hydrogen fluoride. In the presence of water vapor, this can produce hydrofluoric acid, an extremely corrosive mineral acid which causes severe burns to exposed skin. Proper protective gear should be warn when dealing with burned Viton®. There is no danger in dealing with cured Viton® used within the rated temperature range.
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)JensenA said:
Viton is a Trade name registered by Du Pont, you get O rings made from Nitrile, Buna-N or Viton - It's very resistant to heat, but......
There is a remote risk of sustaining chemical burns from Viton® O-rings if they are burned or otherwise exposed to temperatures above 600ºF. Viton® begins to decompose above 600ºF, yielding some nasty compounds including hydrogen fluoride. In the presence of water vapor, this can produce hydrofluoric acid, an extremely corrosive mineral acid which causes severe burns to exposed skin. Proper protective gear should be warn when dealing with burned Viton®. There is no danger in dealing with cured Viton® used within the rated temperature range.
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However although putting your hand in a burning car and fishing out an O ring will probably get you some hydrogen fluoride, I very much doubt any of that substance is left even by the time the engine has cooled down enough for you to touch. Surely hydrogen fluoride is so reactive that it will not stay as a puddle waiting for you to touch it.There is a remote risk of sustaining chemical burns from Viton® O-rings if they are burned or otherwise exposed to temperatures above 600ºF. Viton® begins to decompose above 600ºF, yielding some nasty compounds including hydrogen fluoride. In the presence of water vapor, this can produce hydrofluoric acid, an extremely corrosive mineral acid which causes severe burns to exposed skin. Proper protective gear should be warn when dealing with burned Viton®. There is no danger in dealing with cured Viton® used within the rated temperature range.
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)ridds said:
Believe me, any burnt rubber keep well away from it. Toasted Viton is seriously bad news. Once in your blood stream your only option is amputation. I deal with toasted engines roughly once a month and this is a serious H&S issue.
Unburnt Viton is fine.
Strangely though I never find myself referring any of the local pikeys off for an amputation even after there celebratory new year tyre burning festival. Although you are giving me one hell of an idea Unburnt Viton is fine.

.I will never the less wear my marigolds to prevent loss of important family members.
Strangely though I never find myself referring any of the local pikeys off for an amputation even after there celebratory new year tyre burning festival. Although you are giving me one hell of an idea
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Tyres are not made from viton. They do not contain the element fluorine so you cannot convert them to hydrogen fluoride. (Tyres do however produce other poisonous substances when burnt). Years ago as a student I worked at ICI in Runcorn where HF was manufactured. Someone spilt some down a wall and literally within three or four seconds, the paint had disappeared, leaving just clean pink plaster. The acid also is the only acid (I believe) capable of dissolving glass. Take care.
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Tyres are not made from viton. They do not contain the element fluorine so you cannot convert them to hydrogen fluoride. (Tyres do however produce other poisonous substances when burnt). Years ago as a student I worked at ICI in Runcorn where HF was manufactured. Someone spilt some down a wall and literally within three or four seconds, the paint had disappeared, leaving just clean pink plaster. The acid also is the only acid (I believe) capable of dissolving glass. Take care.
No worrys Gary, It is the engine I bought from a burnt out cerb as a spare for mine. My car is still fighting fit.
Currently I have the T5 from the burnt out car in bits strewn across my garage floor that I have been working on most of the day, the engine is still waiting for the T5 to be renovated before its turn.
I'm trying to find a seal kit and probably going to put a new input and output shaft bearing in for good measure while its apart. Luckily once the lid was off the internals look like they've done very few miles. Strangely though there was quite a lot of input and output shaft play and not sure how to tell whats normal but it doesn't feel right compared to other gearboxes I've played with so trying to get a few answers from my local gearbox specialists, I think this gearbox may not have come properly put together from square one.
As for the ECU Mike. Hit a major stumbling block because I'm now surrounded with scraps of paperwork about the ECU dissasembly. Forever forgetting what I've already done. So made the decision to try and get an assembly file that I could compile with phyton to an exact copy of the .bin. That way commenting and even symbolic debugging would make the paperwork redundant and life much easier.
The problem is its very difficult to achieve an assembly file that phyton will compile to the .bin because phyton likes to assume an awful lot when its compiling. It tends to covert long to short indexed adressing whenever it can but the original programmers of the ECU didn't. And according to phyton there isn't an obvious way of turning it off as using long indexed when its not needed is nonsensical to them, plus I think they were getting a bit grumpy I am still using their evaluation software
, so not much further as currently struggling to get that sorted, I did actually find a way but it seems very long winded. What would be nice is to find a copy of the original intel assembler, rather than the phyton one. You don't have one do you?
Currently I have the T5 from the burnt out car in bits strewn across my garage floor that I have been working on most of the day, the engine is still waiting for the T5 to be renovated before its turn.
I'm trying to find a seal kit and probably going to put a new input and output shaft bearing in for good measure while its apart. Luckily once the lid was off the internals look like they've done very few miles. Strangely though there was quite a lot of input and output shaft play and not sure how to tell whats normal but it doesn't feel right compared to other gearboxes I've played with so trying to get a few answers from my local gearbox specialists, I think this gearbox may not have come properly put together from square one.
As for the ECU Mike. Hit a major stumbling block because I'm now surrounded with scraps of paperwork about the ECU dissasembly. Forever forgetting what I've already done. So made the decision to try and get an assembly file that I could compile with phyton to an exact copy of the .bin. That way commenting and even symbolic debugging would make the paperwork redundant and life much easier.
The problem is its very difficult to achieve an assembly file that phyton will compile to the .bin because phyton likes to assume an awful lot when its compiling. It tends to covert long to short indexed adressing whenever it can but the original programmers of the ECU didn't. And according to phyton there isn't an obvious way of turning it off as using long indexed when its not needed is nonsensical to them, plus I think they were getting a bit grumpy I am still using their evaluation software
, so not much further as currently struggling to get that sorted, I did actually find a way but it seems very long winded. What would be nice is to find a copy of the original intel assembler, rather than the phyton one. You don't have one do you?Edited by julian64 on Saturday 2nd February 18:48
Julian, as far as the In Out shaft play goes I wouldn't worry. I've had a play with 3 of these recently and they all have the same horriblw wobble.
There's a vid on my webspace of one of them. Providing the tooth contact patch is central and evenly worn then worry not.
Vid here:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/matt.riddles/index.ht...
There's a vid on my webspace of one of them. Providing the tooth contact patch is central and evenly worn then worry not.
Vid here:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/matt.riddles/index.ht...
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