Youtube Speeder to Expect Custodial Sentence....
Youtube Speeder to Expect Custodial Sentence....
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jshell

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12,116 posts

236 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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Guy caught filming himself doing 130mph to expect a custodial sentence....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/suffolk...

qooqiiu

753 posts

228 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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He was a fool!

And will be punished accordingly.

supermono

7,464 posts

279 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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I thought the prisons were full?

As an active financial sponsor of UK prisons I'm furious that this insured, taxed, licenced driver is set to occupy a place in stir while countless scum who deserve a stretch are being given suspended sentances and "community service".

To whom do I write?

SM

cluelessboy

66 posts

228 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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The hell was he thinking... driving an Astra.

FishFace

3,790 posts

239 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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supermono said:
I thought the prisons were full?
The more publicity it gains the more likely a short custodial sentence will occur. This increases the public interest aspect insofar as a preventative measure.

supermono

7,464 posts

279 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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FishFace said:
supermono said:
I thought the prisons were full?
The more publicity it gains the more likely a short custodial sentence will occur. This increases the public interest aspect insofar as a preventative measure.
Oh for sure, prison is great at deterring people but frankly on my list of people I want deterring this gimp isn't very high up. Actually he's not even on it. Muggers, yobs, roadragers, drunks fighting in the streets at closing time... Sheesh the list goes on. These are people I'd love to watch breaking up rocks.

SM

FishFace

3,790 posts

239 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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supermono said:
FishFace said:
supermono said:
I thought the prisons were full?
The more publicity it gains the more likely a short custodial sentence will occur. This increases the public interest aspect insofar as a preventative measure.
Oh for sure, prison is great at deterring people but frankly on my list of people I want deterring this gimp isn't very high up. Actually he's not even on it. Muggers, yobs, roadragers, drunks fighting in the streets at closing time... Sheesh the list goes on. These are people I'd love to watch breaking up rocks.

SM
Agreed.

However, we're talking about a specific trend that appears to significantly increase the chance of someone eventually ending up mucho deado. If one person made an example of for a couple of weeks prevents this to whatever degree, surely it's worth it, no?




EU_Foreigner

2,838 posts

257 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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I have more problems with people throwing litter out of a car window and they don't get a prison sentence to deter others ...

FishFace

3,790 posts

239 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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Not quite as dangerous methinks. Not to mention you can't go to prison for littering tongue out

Globulator

13,847 posts

262 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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cluelessboy said:
The hell was he thinking... driving an Astra.
Soooo embarassing.
As was admitting the offence, he should have got legal advice first.

Funny to think of all those Astras in Germany routinely doing what he did, in the UK they want to lock you up for that it seems.

The UK again does it's best to earn the 'petty small minded and slow' awards for 2008.

p1esk

4,914 posts

227 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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supermono said:
I thought the prisons were full?

As an active financial sponsor of UK prisons I'm furious that this insured, taxed, licenced driver is set to occupy a place in stir while countless scum who deserve a stretch are being given suspended sentances and "community service".

To whom do I write?

SM
Well I wouldn't bother about a letter to the government. Those clowns are probably too stupid to be able to read it.

I share your feelings all the same. We shouldn't worry though. I'm sure space will be found to lock up a motoring offender.

xxplod

2,269 posts

275 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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I had an off the record conversation with a lay magistrate recently who admitted that they are under immense pressure not to send anyone to HMP. Which explains some of the outrageous bail decisions they've been making lately.

As said, I would also be extremely cross if this speeder was sent to prison.

I was at a meeting this week where the Chief Inspector from RPU explained that the huge increase in fatalities in our area this year was basically down to "bad luck." I did ask if that meant that the cameras were utterly useless then....

polus

4,343 posts

256 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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FishFace said:
supermono said:
FishFace said:
supermono said:
I thought the prisons were full?
The more publicity it gains the more likely a short custodial sentence will occur. This increases the public interest aspect insofar as a preventative measure.
Oh for sure, prison is great at deterring people but frankly on my list of people I want deterring this gimp isn't very high up. Actually he's not even on it. Muggers, yobs, roadragers, drunks fighting in the streets at closing time... Sheesh the list goes on. These are people I'd love to watch breaking up rocks.

SM
Agreed.

However, we're talking about a specific trend that appears to significantly increase the chance of someone eventually ending up mucho deado. If one person made an example of for a couple of weeks prevents this to whatever degree, surely it's worth it, no?
Obviously I understand your point but I don't think that's what would result. Young lads would still do it but would not post the videos. And the other side of it is that most young people are simply oblivious to some lad from somewhere else being made an example of.

Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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FishFace said:
supermono said:
FishFace said:
supermono said:
I thought the prisons were full?
The more publicity it gains the more likely a short custodial sentence will occur. This increases the public interest aspect insofar as a preventative measure.
Oh for sure, prison is great at deterring people but frankly on my list of people I want deterring this gimp isn't very high up. Actually he's not even on it. Muggers, yobs, roadragers, drunks fighting in the streets at closing time... Sheesh the list goes on. These are people I'd love to watch breaking up rocks.

SM
Agreed.

However, we're talking about a specific trend that appears to significantly increase the chance of someone eventually ending up mucho deado. If one person made an example of for a couple of weeks prevents this to whatever degree, surely it's worth it, no?
What specific trend? How many people have posted videos of them filming themselves speeding and crashing and dying.

No-one lives forever, and evolution happens for a reason...

FishFace

3,790 posts

239 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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The specific trend of people posting themselves driving dangerously on Youtube.


p1esk

4,914 posts

227 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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FishFace said:
The specific trend of people posting themselves driving dangerously on Youtube.
.... or rather driving at illegally high speeds, not all of which might fairly be described as dangerous.

FishFace

3,790 posts

239 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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Are you talking about legally or in your opinion? I'm talking the former. The ones I've seen are going to be more likely to attract a dangerous driving charge.

p1esk

4,914 posts

227 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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FishFace said:
Are you talking about legally or in your opinion? I'm talking the former. The ones I've seen are going to be more likely to attract a dangerous driving charge.
I was talking about speeds seriously in excess of the legal maximum. My opinion is of no relevance.

With regard to the 'dangerous' aspect, I believe Von has confirmed that high speed, even speed very far in excess of the legal limit, is not sufficient, of itself, to sustain a charge of dangerous driving.

tigger1

8,483 posts

252 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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Bing o said:
How many people have posted videos of them filming themselves speeding and crashing and dying.
I think that will always be a number less than 1. winkhehe

This chap doesn't need to be doing porridge...unless what he did was TRULY dangerous (may have been, don't know). Having not seen the clip (and personally I'm all for allowing them on YouTube...if only so the most stupidly dangerous ones can be taken off the roads) I don't understand why a (lengthy) ban isn't enough to stop him doing it again...unless he's got previous for similar offences.

FishFace

3,790 posts

239 months

Thursday 31st January 2008
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p1esk said:
FishFace said:
Are you talking about legally or in your opinion? I'm talking the former. The ones I've seen are going to be more likely to attract a dangerous driving charge.
I was talking about speeds seriously in excess of the legal maximum. My opinion is of no relevance.

With regard to the 'dangerous' aspect, I believe Von has confirmed that high speed, even speed very far in excess of the legal limit, is not sufficient, of itself, to sustain a charge of dangerous driving.
Correct. Speed isn't dangerous per se.