Cutting red tape could put 3000 officers on the streets
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Repetition is a major issue from what friends tell me. Writing names, addresses and dates of birth countless times. How hard is it to get Microsoft Word to ask you to enter those things once and put it on each form needed at once?
It almost seems as if there are inherent contradictions in Flanagan's report. He says there is too much red tape etc, but wants a more 'formal' search procedure and wants the Police to be more accountable. Any form of extra accountability will no doubt result in recording more things.
It almost seems as if there are inherent contradictions in Flanagan's report. He says there is too much red tape etc, but wants a more 'formal' search procedure and wants the Police to be more accountable. Any form of extra accountability will no doubt result in recording more things.
Hooli said:
shame the scamera stasi dont seem to have the same levels of red tape, if they did you wouldnt see them out often enough to make the roads safer a decent profit.
Funnily enough, the tight regulations they have to adhere to prevent them from placing them where a lot more people would (IMO) approve e.g. outside of schools etc. FishFace said:
Hooli said:
shame the scamera stasi dont seem to have the same levels of red tape, if they did you wouldnt see them out often enough to make the roads safer a decent profit.
Funnily enough, the tight regulations they have to adhere to prevent them from placing them where a lot more people would (IMO) approve e.g. outside of schools etc. qooqiiu said:
There are more police now than ever before.
This is not necessarily a good thing.
The numbers of police officers has dropped over the last two years. Also, 3000 police officers is a figure pulled out of the air with little or nothing to back it up. It would put the police numbers back to where they were before financial restrictions enforced a numbers cut.This is not necessarily a good thing.
500 would go to the Mets, leaving around 50 for every 3000 or so sized force. This would mean 12 available for every day or around one per division. Take off heath and safety lectures, equal oppportunities courses, risk assessment chats, appearances at court waiting areas.
Sorry to be so depressing.
Derek Smith said:
qooqiiu said:
There are more police now than ever before.
This is not necessarily a good thing.
The numbers of police officers has dropped over the last two years. Also, 3000 police officers is a figure pulled out of the air with little or nothing to back it up. It would put the police numbers back to where they were before financial restrictions enforced a numbers cut.This is not necessarily a good thing.
500 would go to the Mets, leaving around 50 for every 3000 or so sized force. This would mean 12 available for every day or around one per division. Take off heath and safety lectures, equal oppportunities courses, risk assessment chats, appearances at court waiting areas.
Sorry to be so depressing.
My last year in the id unit:
365 days in the year:
Two days off each week = 104, leaving 261:
28 days holiday, leaving 233:
One day each week collating information (stats), leaving 188:
One departmental meeting each month with a three line whip, leaving 176:
Divisional meeting, one per week if I could be bothered, leaving 175:
135 times called to court, leaving 40:
3 days sick, leaving 38 (one day’s court):
2 days course on racial awareness, 36.
Looked at that way it means that I was paid over £1000 per day of actual work. Treble that and I’m in junior barrister territory.
365 days in the year:
Two days off each week = 104, leaving 261:
28 days holiday, leaving 233:
One day each week collating information (stats), leaving 188:
One departmental meeting each month with a three line whip, leaving 176:
Divisional meeting, one per week if I could be bothered, leaving 175:
135 times called to court, leaving 40:
3 days sick, leaving 38 (one day’s court):
2 days course on racial awareness, 36.
Looked at that way it means that I was paid over £1000 per day of actual work. Treble that and I’m in junior barrister territory.
Home Office equation used to be that it took seven officers to
allow one on 24 hour cover (3 shifts of 8hrs).
The influx of training modules, meetings etc of today I would suspect would take a couple more. So to make any large effect on the streets you would need more that 300 for the size of the Met.
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allow one on 24 hour cover (3 shifts of 8hrs).
The influx of training modules, meetings etc of today I would suspect would take a couple more. So to make any large effect on the streets you would need more that 300 for the size of the Met.
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Dwight VanDriver said:
Home Office equation used to be that it took seven officers to
allow one on 24 hour cover (3 shifts of 8hrs).
The influx of training modules, meetings etc of today I would suspect would take a couple more. So to make any large effect on the streets you would need more that 300 for the size of the Met.
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The point is it will not be 3000 new officers.allow one on 24 hour cover (3 shifts of 8hrs).
The influx of training modules, meetings etc of today I would suspect would take a couple more. So to make any large effect on the streets you would need more that 300 for the size of the Met.
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It will be each officer currently on the street, out there a few minutes more each day.
At the end of the day it is what they do whilst there that matters.
Catch up with paperwork so they can go home on time for a change, would be my guess.
But then I am a cynic.
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