Suprise call from Adrian Flux
Suprise call from Adrian Flux
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ianrbt

Original Poster:

47 posts

240 months

Thursday 7th February 2008
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I have just been blown away by a phone call to say my policy with Flux is after being in force for 5months is null and void!!!!

The reason they give is my chim needs a cat somthing or other as an alarm.
Can anybody tell me what the standard alarm is and has anybody else had a similer call. they say they have made a genuine mistake.
I wonder now what my rights are. My last policy was with Norwich Union direct. This policy through Flux is also with Norwich union, why should there now be such a panic?

Edited by ianrbt on Thursday 7th February 21:25

JonathanT

880 posts

314 months

Thursday 7th February 2008
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I was given a photocopied bit of paper with my car that said that the combination of the Meta immobilizer and microwave thingy meant that my alarm system was Thatcham Cat 1....

tvrbob

11,197 posts

285 months

Thursday 7th February 2008
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JonathanT said:
I was given a photocopied bit of paper with my car that said that the combination of the Meta immobilizer and microwave thingy meant that my alarm system was Thatcham Cat 1....
The document actually says that the alarm is cat 1 but because of the way it is installed it is rated at cat 2 (or some such) There's a copy of the letter in the SH Bible

rev-erend

21,623 posts

314 months

Thursday 7th February 2008
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I've been given the same spiel myself for my T350 - your local TVR garage has a letter from TVR stating that the alarm was fitted by TVR ..

tvrbob

11,197 posts

285 months

Thursday 7th February 2008
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tvrbob said:
JonathanT said:
I was given a photocopied bit of paper with my car that said that the combination of the Meta immobilizer and microwave thingy meant that my alarm system was Thatcham Cat 1....
The document actually says that the alarm is cat 1 but because of the way it is installed it is rated at cat 2 (or some such) There's a copy of the letter in the SH Bible
Further, if someone has replaced your alarm then who knows what the rating is. The letter only refers to the original fit

WazzaL

960 posts

239 months

Thursday 7th February 2008
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When I was insuring my Chim, they told me no because it did have a Thatham Approved Alarm even though it has the original TVR alarm installed.

Apparently the Metas used were taken off the approved list in 1999 (iirc).

Therefore, you need to confirm it was installed before then, which is the point of the letter in the bible.

I sent them a copy of that letter and they were happy enough with it.

MF68

199 posts

255 months

Thursday 7th February 2008
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Never had a problem with flux until when i insured my griff with them over 3 years ago on a 93 griff.
They informed me about it into the insurance, so had to fork out another £270 to £300 for a cat1 alarm with someone recomended by them...
However since then i have been with pearts as they always came out cheaper when i upped the milage to 5000

martin

Edited by MF68 on Thursday 7th February 13:09

Bodmin

596 posts

228 months

Thursday 7th February 2008
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It is a while since I had any dealings with alarm installations but from memory a Cat 1 alarm had to be fitted by a special trained & registered fitter. I remember at a garage I once worked the auto electrician had to be sent on a £600 course after which he became a Thatcham registered fitter.

Again from memory, which I may be corrected, the Cat 1 have a three stage immobiliser system with audible alarm, Cat 2 was a two stage immobiliser but does not have to have an audible alarm. The Cat 2 was a common fitment to supplement any car manufacturers standard alarm.

The insurance companies do take this seriously, after all any excuse to reject a claim shoot , & I heard of a garage where a Cat 1 system was fitted but the installer was not Thatcham registered, the car was subsequently stolen & the insurance company rejected the claim so the fitting garage had to pay out.

It is important that whenever you buy a car if it is fitted with a Cat 1 that you get given the installation certificate as this is what your insurance company will ask for. If there is no certificate the system is worthless & you will need to have a new system fitted. I do not know if any of the car manufacturers have started fitting Cat 1 systems yet.

RUSSELLM

6,002 posts

277 months

Thursday 7th February 2008
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I got this with my 96 Cerb, not sure if it's the same for A Chim



If you mess about with the quote system on Norwich Union's site, it's quite interesting to see what they class as important.

Having A Cat 2 alarm as opposed to no alarm ,saves you A fiver, you get another fiver off for a tracker system, and A further fiver off for keeping the car in A garage instead of the road.

Unless you can find someone to fit the alarm, tracker & build you a garage for less than fifteen quid, I can't see the point.

Can't Flux just charge you the difference between A policy with an alarm and a policy without an alarm ?

ianrbt

Original Poster:

47 posts

240 months

Thursday 7th February 2008
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Update.............At 4.45 today Flux rang me back and said because it was their error they would continue cover at no extra charge utill renewal in october!! RESULT!
I have asked them to put this in writing and they have agreed to this so all is well.
Thank-you all contributors
As a foot note I had started shopping round and got a quote off Direct line for less that £350 so if I have problems at renewal Ive places to go!

Hoover.

5,993 posts

272 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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In the history of my car, someone has paid to get a check done on the original fit confirming it as a Tatcham Cat 2, along woth all the deatils/numbers which the insurance companies eem well happy with

thegman

1,928 posts

234 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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Hmm. I have my 97 insured with A plan. It has the META alarm and immob system (I think - round key fob?). Is there a chance my insurance is invalid in terms of theft?

gingerprince

571 posts

271 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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ianrbt said:
As a foot note I had started shopping round and got a quote off Direct line for less that £350 so if I have problems at renewal Ive places to go!
direct line/tesco/churchill group usually insist on a tracker being fitted.