"Speed kills" in 1920? Did it?
"Speed kills" in 1920? Did it?
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james_j

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3,996 posts

275 months

Friday 25th July 2003
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Just saw the following article from the BBC website via http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1076541.stm

It relates to deaths on the road in 2000.

These two sentences for me really say it all about how the "speed kills" thing is a load of b@lls:

"...Last year, 3,423 people were killed on the roads, two more than in 1998.

The rate is well below that in the 1920s, when there were one million cars on the roads, compared to 20 million today..."

So, given that cars were not exactly quick in the 1920s, how come "speed kills"? I'd have thought that there may be other factors or is that thinking too deeply?

(PS I appreciate that 1920s cars were not as safe in an accident and that there are other factors such as state of roads, although ours are crumbling away.)

MajorClanger

749 posts

290 months

Friday 25th July 2003
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james_j said:
Just saw the following article from the BBC website via http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1076541.stm

It relates to deaths on the road in 2000.

These two sentences for me really say it all about how the "speed kills" thing is a load of b@lls:

"...Last year, 3,423 people were killed on the roads, two more than in 1998.

The rate is well below that in the 1920s, when there were one million cars on the roads, compared to 20 million today..."

So, given that cars were not exactly quick in the 1920s, how come "speed kills"? I'd have thought that there may be other factors or is that thinking too deeply?

(PS I appreciate that 1920s cars were not as safe in an accident and that there are other factors such as state of roads, although ours are crumbling away.)
You may have hit upon something... there were no speed limits in 1920s! QED Speed Limits Kill!

MC

the Wiz

5,875 posts

282 months

Friday 25th July 2003
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Ever driven a 1920s car? It was probably the cars rather than the speed hthat killed.

bikerkeith

794 posts

284 months

Friday 25th July 2003
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Might have had something to do with the total lack of driving tests/licences in the 20s. My Dad never passed a test, and it showed.

james_j

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3,996 posts

275 months

Friday 25th July 2003
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Sure, there are other reasons. That was the point of my message.

As can be clearly seen, there has been a dramatic reduction in the accident rate since the 1920s, despite the great increase in the average speed of motorised travel. In other words, there is more to accidents than speed alone.

dimmadan

703 posts

283 months

Friday 25th July 2003
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no one ever said 'only' speed kills. Gov stats will tell you only around 25% (or thereabouts) of accidents are 'speed related' and IIRC a lot less (10%?) are 'directly' related speed.

So you ask why are the Gov so hung up on the speed thing? I dunno, but i would guess its one of the things they can do something about fairly easily..

Personally I think the driving test should be harder and every 5-10 years.

regmolehusband

4,077 posts

277 months

Friday 25th July 2003
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The prat who heads up the West Mercia Speed Camera Partnership reckons that "speeding is the biggest single cause of road accidents in the UK"