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Got a call from work today, apparently I've been reported by the BiB for driving like a loon down south. Aylesbury I think it was.
I spent the day up in Lincoln with plenty of witnesses, the cvnts have even used the same vehicle and colour.
I thought about nipping down to the local chippy to have a word with a traffic officer but its shut on Mondays.
Whats the usual score with this problem? Getting mucho grief at the minute.
Ta
I spent the day up in Lincoln with plenty of witnesses, the cvnts have even used the same vehicle and colour.
I thought about nipping down to the local chippy to have a word with a traffic officer but its shut on Mondays.
Whats the usual score with this problem? Getting mucho grief at the minute.
Ta
Slightly off topic but similar, driving out of Manchester on Sunday, pulled over to take a phone call and watched two guys stood at a set of traffic lights with a digital camera, each time the lights went red and something 'decent' was at the front of the queues they took a snap, if it was normal run of the mill stuff they didnt bother.
Was parked up for about 15 minutes, theres gonna be a lot of BMW and Merc owners suffering a similar fate to you. Guess they had alot of traffic heading back to the M6 after the Manc derby.
Was parked up for about 15 minutes, theres gonna be a lot of BMW and Merc owners suffering a similar fate to you. Guess they had alot of traffic heading back to the M6 after the Manc derby.
If my car is ever cloned I will be as arkward as possible..
Someone else commits a crime.
You are perfectly innocent..
but you have to jump through hoops to prove your innocence .
I would just say..it wasn't me . . go find the criminal..bye (door closes)
Of course it doesn't work like that 'your' car has probably been section 59'd now.
If you are seen doing ANYTHING now you could well find your car gets CRUSHED!
Or you could spend ages going to court.
How the heck does a system that relies on bits of plastic that can be copied ever get allowed to be legal....
Someone else commits a crime.
You are perfectly innocent..
but you have to jump through hoops to prove your innocence .
I would just say..it wasn't me . . go find the criminal..bye (door closes)
Of course it doesn't work like that 'your' car has probably been section 59'd now.
If you are seen doing ANYTHING now you could well find your car gets CRUSHED!
Or you could spend ages going to court.
How the heck does a system that relies on bits of plastic that can be copied ever get allowed to be legal....
May not be a bad idea to put some unique stickers on the back of your car, so if the clone is flashed then it will look different from yours. Take a photo with you and a newspaper so that the date the stickers were added can be verified...
Edited by mrmr96 on Tuesday 12th February 22:05
mrmr96 said:
May not be a bad idea to put some unique stickers on the back of your car, so if the clone is flashed then it will look different from yours. Take a photo with you and a newspaper so that the date the stickers were added can be verified...
How does that work? Could have just kept an old newspaper and taken the picture 5 minutes ago.Edited by mrmr96 on Tuesday 12th February 22:05
andy400 said:
mrmr96 said:
May not be a bad idea to put some unique stickers on the back of your car, so if the clone is flashed then it will look different from yours. Take a photo with you and a newspaper so that the date the stickers were added can be verified...
How does that work? Could have just kept an old newspaper and taken the picture 5 minutes ago.Edited by mrmr96 on Tuesday 12th February 22:05
Erm, how about a photo of the sticker left with a solicitor, or alternativly a photo signed by a responsible person?
This can be a right bast**d to clear up, as the authorities just will not believe they have made a mistake.
You will probably have to repeat over a billion times and to loads of different people, the same story....and if you do not have witnesses or a paper trail ( credit card bills showing you in other area, dentist appointment etc ) then it can often end up easier to pay the fines yourself, just to end the stress.
But it reminds me once of when I was pulled by a copper for no seatbelt.
' I'm going to ticket you as you did not have your belt on '
' Yes I did. You are mistaken. Sorry'.
This when on for about a solid five minutes until, I presume, he realised I would not budge and, as I said, I'd be more than happy to play the same parrot in court...which is a bit risky also for the police and quite an amazing waste of time for all.
So long as you know you are right and keep cool, don't add amy more information beyond the denial, you will be OK.
( Well, unless you are in London - they will clamp and crush your car within seconds, if they can )
You will probably have to repeat over a billion times and to loads of different people, the same story....and if you do not have witnesses or a paper trail ( credit card bills showing you in other area, dentist appointment etc ) then it can often end up easier to pay the fines yourself, just to end the stress.
But it reminds me once of when I was pulled by a copper for no seatbelt.
' I'm going to ticket you as you did not have your belt on '
' Yes I did. You are mistaken. Sorry'.
This when on for about a solid five minutes until, I presume, he realised I would not budge and, as I said, I'd be more than happy to play the same parrot in court...which is a bit risky also for the police and quite an amazing waste of time for all.
So long as you know you are right and keep cool, don't add amy more information beyond the denial, you will be OK.
( Well, unless you are in London - they will clamp and crush your car within seconds, if they can )
jondude said:
This can be a right bast**d to clear up, as the authorities just will not believe they have made a mistake.
In fairness to them they haven't made a mistake have they? Given the number of people who try to claim it wasn't them when nicked by speeding cameras I can imagine that this is an increasing problem when looking at cloned plates.
Hope the OP gets it sorted - I think adding a sticker or decal to the back (and front) of the car is a good idea. I'm a lawyer and if you want to send me prints of the front and back I don't mind certifying the date that you've sent them to me. It might help you a bit in the future. Send me a PM if you like (I can't pick up PM's until the evening)
jondude said:
This can be a right bast**d to clear up, as the authorities just will not believe they have made a mistake.
If it ever got as far as court and the OP claimed that it was not his vehicle involved in the alleged offence, then it would fall to the prosecution to prove otherwise.DPX said:
This is one thing that ANPR coould help fix . Why cant they read plates log where it was seen and then if it was seen 100 miles away in less than for example 1 hour , then pull them both and see who is real .
Two major flaws:1) Relies on massive coincidence. How many cars are ANPRed every day? 10,000? 100,000? There are, what 30M cars (someone correct me), so your chance of getting the cloned one in the next hour is around 1 in 7200.
2) How do you pull the one you saw an hour ago??
mark69sheer said:
If my car is ever cloned I will be as arkward as possible..
Someone else commits a crime.
You are perfectly innocent..
but you have to jump through hoops to prove your innocence .
I would just say..it wasn't me . . go find the criminal..bye (door closes)
Of course it doesn't work like that 'your' car has probably been section 59'd now.
If you are seen doing ANYTHING now you could well find your car gets CRUSHED!
Or you could spend ages going to court.
How the heck does a system that relies on bits of plastic that can be copied ever get allowed to be legal....
Aren't you just being massively socially irresponsible? I mean, it's not the state's fault that someone else has cloned your car plates. Why not be cooperative and help yourself, help the state and help the general public (catching a criminal)?Someone else commits a crime.
You are perfectly innocent..
but you have to jump through hoops to prove your innocence .
I would just say..it wasn't me . . go find the criminal..bye (door closes)
Of course it doesn't work like that 'your' car has probably been section 59'd now.
If you are seen doing ANYTHING now you could well find your car gets CRUSHED!
Or you could spend ages going to court.
How the heck does a system that relies on bits of plastic that can be copied ever get allowed to be legal....
I simply don't understand this attitude - can you explain it please?
Piglet said:
Hope the OP gets it sorted - I think adding a sticker or decal to the back (and front) of the car is a good idea. I'm a lawyer and if you want to send me prints of the front and back I don't mind certifying the date that you've sent them to me. It might help you a bit in the future. Send me a PM if you like (I can't pick up PM's until the evening)
He's a lawyer! He gets paid to lie in court. 
Seriously, it's not a bad idea - although I would suggest using a JP or equivalent. Or simply go to the local police and ask them to witness it.
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