Senna vs Mansell - Monaco '92
Senna vs Mansell - Monaco '92
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MrKipling43

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5,788 posts

245 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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Proof, as if it were needed, that our love of the Walker/Hunt combo is seen through anything but rose tinted spectacles.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RxwIHQHDn6g

Also, does anyone else think that the cars look like they're going faster than they do now? I'm excepting Lewis through the fast chicane before Rascasse!

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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there is an awesome lap of monaco in car with senna around 88/89 on youtube. its pretty incredible, one handed cornering whlist grabbing gears, the stuff of legends...

mhedleyrob

160 posts

233 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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I was lucky enough to be at the 1992 Monaco race - it was like being at a football match as the cheering was so loud.

The Williams of Mansell had a Renault engine so the French were really going for it.

Great memories.

woof

8,456 posts

306 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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brilliant
I don't think there's any corner in the world that gets be more excited than watching the opening lap as the cars go through Ste Devote (1st corner)

RedexRob

1,861 posts

243 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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One day someone will photoshop the different ending where Mansell punts Senna off at the Chicane then tour to victory !

Mr_Thyroid

1,995 posts

256 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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MrKipling43 said:
Also, does anyone else think that the cars look like they're going faster than they do now? I'm excepting Lewis through the fast chicane before Rascasse!
Does anyone know the lap times?

With the reduction in machanical grip from grooved tyres and narrower cars it's possible that around Monaco the times would be similar. Although it'll be difficult to compare because St Devote and the swimming pool have been reconfigured to be quicker.

MrKipling43

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5,788 posts

245 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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Pole in 1992 was 1'19.495, Alonso's in 2007 was a 1'15.726.

But, as you say, hard to compare directly.

In 2007 the fastest lap at Silverstone was 2 seconds faster than it was in 1992.

Williams always seem up for cool stuff, time for a race between Mansell and Nico Rosberg's rides.

Edited by MrKipling43 on Monday 18th February 19:21

bluesatin

3,115 posts

301 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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People can talk about todays drivers but these were true gladiators!

Simes205

5,019 posts

257 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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I remember that race in '92 - awesome, nail biting.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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bluesatin said:
People can talk about todays drivers but these were true gladiators!
Well, tell that to the guys driving tin bombs between hay bales wearing a leather helmet and t shirt a few years earlier.

Roop

6,018 posts

313 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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stephen300o said:
Well, tell that to the guys driving tin bombs between hay bales wearing a leather helmet and t shirt a few years earlier.
hehe Great description...! thumbup

Racefan_uk

2,935 posts

285 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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That, right there, is two guys at the top of their game! So close yet no touching, not barging.
But can you imagine the FIA stewards nowadays watching Senna's 'lines' keeping the Williams behind him?! They'd throw a fit! (No blocking my arse!) hehe

williamp

20,387 posts

302 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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Yep, there was some great racing back then. But also sone very boring races. If a driver got out in front, they would totally dominate. Mansell at Silverstone in 91 springs to mind- he was so much quicker then anyone.

I started watching F1 when I was quite young, and I remember my Dad explainign to me that, although a driver did not cross the line first he would have done, so they gave him the race win. I always remember this is being unfair, as it meant Mansell came 2nd instead of 1st.

But I cannot think this is true. Is my memory getting bad?

entropy

6,441 posts

232 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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bluesatin said:
People can talk about todays drivers but these were true gladiators!
Alonso holding off Schumi in Imola 2006 and the same thing at Turkey 2007. Schumi returning the favour at Imola a year later and Alonso went half a lap wheel to wheel with Schumi at Hungary in 2007.

Lewis taking over Mansell's mantle as Mr Entertainment and demon overtaker on the race track and the mystique that is Kimi.

I'd say we're back in the 'golden age' because we now have better strength in depth after a nearly a decade of Schumi making the opposition look stupid.

MrKipling43

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245 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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entropy said:
I'd say we're back in the 'golden age' because we now have better strength in depth after a nearly a decade of Schumi making the opposition look stupid.
I think you may be speaking too soon. I fear that Kimi is going to walk all over it, at least for this year.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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MrKipling43 said:
entropy said:
I'd say we're back in the 'golden age' because we now have better strength in depth after a nearly a decade of Schumi making the opposition look stupid.
I think you may be speaking too soon. I fear that Kimi is going to walk all over it, at least for this year.
I don't "fear" this, it would be very welcomebiggrin

simonrockman

7,119 posts

284 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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I'm not one of those people who remembers lots of racing incidents, I think I can only remember one - Mansell overtaking Senna coming out of the tunnel, but I've relived that and told the story a good dozen times giving people rides around the circuit in a friend's Atom.

Thanks for the YouTube link, I can't watch it from work but I'll look at it when I get home.


Esited to say: I've watched it now - it was the '91 overtake I remember

Simon

Edited by simonrockman on Tuesday 19th February 22:04

Ecurie Ecosse

4,812 posts

247 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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stephen300o said:
MrKipling43 said:
entropy said:
I'd say we're back in the 'golden age' because we now have better strength in depth after a nearly a decade of Schumi making the opposition look stupid.
I think you may be speaking too soon. I fear that Kimi is going to walk all over it, at least for this year.
I don't "fear" this, it would be very welcomebiggrin
Indeed ; )

MrKipling43

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5,788 posts

245 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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Ecurie Ecosse said:
stephen300o said:
MrKipling43 said:
entropy said:
I'd say we're back in the 'golden age' because we now have better strength in depth after a nearly a decade of Schumi making the opposition look stupid.
I think you may be speaking too soon. I fear that Kimi is going to walk all over it, at least for this year.
I don't "fear" this, it would be very welcomebiggrin
Indeed ; )
And here's the problem with Ferrari fans. They'd rather see domination than an interesting season.

I was chuffed to bits when Kimi won last season, he deserved it, but I'm glad he had to work for it.

Edited by MrKipling43 on Tuesday 19th February 14:17

waynepixel

3,978 posts

253 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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I remember that race, great driving by both drivers.