Diff Question
Diff Question
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dan_under

Original Poster:

6 posts

241 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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Hi All - I own a 96 N plate Chimaera which is my pride & joy. I have hopefully a very simple question that one of you experts will be able to help me with. After a long drive, I get out of the car and notice a burning smell at the back from under the car. I’m pretty sure it isn’t the bodywork and have narrowed it down to a couple of things – a) possible a sticky calliper at the rear (the wheel squeaks every rotation) but doesn’t seem abnormally hot, b) dodgy bearing (the squeaking noise again) or c) most worryingly the diff.

Regarding the diff, not that I have noticed, but there is no clunking or whining noise as it drives. Can a diff smell of burning? First thought is to check the diff oil – here comes the main question – what diff do I have / what oil does it use / where do I fill it up ? I have searched high & low and from the research I have done, I think it is a GKN Diff – can someone confirm this please ? As you can see in the photo, it looks as though it has leaked, but there is nothing on the ground.



Any thoughts would be much appreciate as nice weather is coming and I want to drive my car.

Thanks, Dan

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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That looks like GKN, there is a vent on the top of the diff, which can blow out a little fluid during spirited use wink It is poss to extend the vent with a pipe..

Dave
ETA: must read what I write before pressing the button, even if I am rushing hehe

Edited by spend on Wednesday 20th February 19:00

dogbucket

1,254 posts

232 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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Any diff leaks usually drip onto the hot exhaust causing the burning smell and splatter the rear underside as well.

As Spend says some oil being ejected from the breather is the most likely. See a thread here in which myself and others have made extension pipes for the later BTR diff to stop this happening.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Worth checking it is not the seals round the driveshafts etc by getting underneath and having a look.

dan_under

Original Poster:

6 posts

241 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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Cheers guys - thank you for the prompt & helpful responses. Regarding the oil, what oil should I be using with this diff as I know it is quite particular and how much should I be using ? Here comes the stupid question - where is the filler cap on the diff ? biggrin

Sorry, last question - how do you check how much oil is in there - is the only way to check is to empty it ? rolleyes

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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Filler cap on the RHS rear of diff.. Stick an allen key down it, hook it over like a dipstick. Should be filled till it overflows.

You may need to remove the road wheel, or do it from underneath (but Mr Ribol seems to think it should be absolutely level?)

Dave

Ribol

11,995 posts

289 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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spend said:
You may need to remove the road wheel, or do it from underneath (but Mr Ribol seems to think it should be absolutely level?)
Correction - people who know about diffs think it should be level, not only Mr Ribol wink

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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So if you make sure you fill it exactly level, chassis rails, wheels or some imaginary c/l of the diff?, then drive like a fairy you wont have any discharge from the vent... rofl

Dave

Ribol

11,995 posts

289 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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spend said:
So if you make sure you fill it exactly level, chassis rails, wheels or some imaginary c/l of the diff?, then drive like a fairy you wont have any discharge from the vent... rofl
Or failing that he could do what you do, what was that ridiculous piece of "advice" you gave someone jack the car up on one side so you can get more oil in the diff.

Possibly one of the daftest things I have read on the internet hehe

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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Could be... more or less? hehe

Dave

That Daddy

19,461 posts

252 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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spend said:
Could be... more or less? hehe

Dave
Dave, you upsetting more owners againscratchchin

steve-V8s

2,924 posts

279 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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Certainly a good idea to check the Diff oil, especially if it has been leaking and isn’t any more. As others have said there is a breather on top which can be the source of a few drops after some “ spirited “ driving.

You indicate that there may be an issue with a squeak from the rear. If you go for a drive and then feel each rear wheel centre are they the same temperature ? Wheel bearings are not (as far as I know) a common problem but sticky break callipers are and these can cause both the burning smell and a squeak, so worth checking that all is well around the brakes while you are underneath dipping the Diff.

Ribol

11,995 posts

289 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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That Daddy said:
spend said:
Could be... more or less? hehe

Dave
Dave, you upsetting more owners againscratchchin
Leave him alone TD - if he only stuck to posting about things he knows about he could easily get away with it.

Mind you, I for one would miss not seeing him around anymore hehe

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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Well fairies come in pairs to make it work I suppose, wishing you a happy life together rolleyes

Dave

That Daddy

19,461 posts

252 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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Ribol said:
That Daddy said:
spend said:
Could be... more or less? hehe

Dave
Dave, you upsetting more owners againscratchchin
Leave him alone TD - if he only stuck to posting about things he knows about he could easily get away with it.

Mind you, I for one would miss not seeing him around anymore hehe
Secondedrolleyesthing is Spend you do like making points of a sexual nature,you havent got any issues have you?laughthumbup

That Daddy

19,461 posts

252 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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Ribol said:
That Daddy said:
spend said:
Could be... more or less? hehe

Dave
Dave, you upsetting more owners againscratchchin
Leave him alone TD - if he only stuck to posting about things he knows about he could easily get away with it.

Mind you, I for one would miss not seeing him around anymore hehe
Secondedrolleyesthing is Spend you do like making points of a sexual nature,you havent got any issues have you?laughthumbup

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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Are you 2 on the level?

Dave

Cider Andy

1,889 posts

256 months

Friday 22nd February 2008
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Dan, if there's oil in the diff, it's quiet and it's not too hot to touch, I wouldn't worry about driving it.

Some years ago I drove over a plastic bag, a part of which stuck to the top of the exhaust out of sight. It literally took weeks to burn away - in fact I found it before it had. It's difficult to describe a smell on an internet forum, but this is worth bearing in mind.

dan_under

Original Poster:

6 posts

241 months

Friday 22nd February 2008
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Hi guys - thank you for all the useful advice - not sure where some of it is going hehe - some sort of love affair !
One question that hasn't be answered though that would help loads is what oil should I be using with this diff if it needs topping up ?

Thanks again guys, Dan