BMW 535d - DMS - diesel record breaker
BMW 535d - DMS - diesel record breaker
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535dman

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2,726 posts

238 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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Posted this in the general forum but should have done it here instead! Enjoy smile


http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/videos/featuresvideos...

StuB

6,695 posts

270 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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Surely Audi's Le Mans car is the fastest diesel hehe but that's quick in anyone's book.

NickXX

1,647 posts

249 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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StuB said:
Surely Audi's Le Mans car is the fastest diesel hehe but that's quick in anyone's book.
But is it quicker than an M3? laugh

davidd

6,719 posts

315 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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Was that 174mph? I would have thought it might go a little faster than that...

Still not bad smile

Do we know what map that has on it, is it just a bog standard dms 35 map or something special?

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eowen

16,699 posts

296 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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Is a 335d lighter/more slippery? Would a chipped 335d go quicker still?

535dman

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2,726 posts

238 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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The full print version is available in this weeks Auto Express - apparently they chose the 535d over the 335d due to the drag factor or something being better on the 5 series sport confused

dxb335d

2,905 posts

226 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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eowen said:
Is a 335d lighter/more slippery? Would a chipped 335d go quicker still?
It is the standard DMS map, same as what myself and Jules run. I would have thought the 3series coupe would go quicker. Its lighter and contarary to what has alredy been said I believe it is more aerodynamic than a 5series.

Carlos

dxb335d

2,905 posts

226 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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Is this in this weeks magazine?

Cyclone1

2,614 posts

277 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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Except mine doesn't run the standard map........

My DMS'd 335D is running at VMAX Redline on March 9th, so expect 174mph to be beaten.

Jules.

dxb335d

2,905 posts

226 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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Oh right, what map are you running then Jules?

Where is Vmax on the 9th?

Cyclone1

2,614 posts

277 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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dxb335d said:
Oh right, what map are you running then Jules?

Where is Vmax on the 9th?
Not sure but not the standard one.

All Vmax details are in the Vmax section of PH. It's held at Bruntingthorpe.

Jules.

dxb335d

2,905 posts

226 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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You asked DMS for a stronger map then?

Aeroresh

1,429 posts

263 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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Ive asked them about a stronger map for mine to be told they dont do one!

Cyclone1

2,614 posts

277 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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Aeroresh said:
Ive asked them about a stronger map for mine to be told they dont do one!
They don't. Most tuners will do a softer map or one that gives better mpg.

With the safety features built into the ECU/Software most tuners offer a map that is just within the max tolerances. In order to offer a "stronger" map something would have to be compromised, e.g. the safety features would have to be over-ridden, this is possible but not recommended and most Tuners would not offer this.

Jules.

davidd

6,719 posts

315 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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dxb335d said:
eowen said:
Is a 335d lighter/more slippery? Would a chipped 335d go quicker still?
It is the standard DMS map, same as what myself and Jules run. I would have thought the 3series coupe would go quicker. Its lighter and contarary to what has alredy been said I believe it is more aerodynamic than a 5series.

Carlos
Carlos

When did you get it done? I thought you were going with emaps, why did you change your mind?
I thought I saw you on little walden rd on tuesday, I was in a blue 520dmsport pretending to be a ships captain smile

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StuB

6,695 posts

270 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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dxb335d said:
eowen said:
Is a 335d lighter/more slippery? Would a chipped 335d go quicker still?
It is the standard DMS map, same as what myself and Jules run. I would have thought the 3series coupe would go quicker. Its lighter and contarary to what has alredy been said I believe it is more aerodynamic than a 5series.

Carlos
I think it's well proven weight has nothing to do with top speed and why do you think a coupe would be quicker than the 5er? Could it be down to taller gearing on the 535d, rather than an aero issue? The vid showed plenty of revs at that V Max. What's the rpm/mph ratio on the 335d?

By the way, I'd be extrmely impressed to see a 335d do over 174 at V Max! It's not as long as you think you know and the corner at the end of the runway arrives sooner than you think too.

NoelWatson

11,710 posts

273 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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StuB said:
dxb335d said:
eowen said:
Is a 335d lighter/more slippery? Would a chipped 335d go quicker still?
It is the standard DMS map, same as what myself and Jules run. I would have thought the 3series coupe would go quicker. Its lighter and contarary to what has alredy been said I believe it is more aerodynamic than a 5series.

Carlos
I think it's well proven weight has nothing to do with top speed and why do you think a coupe would be quicker than the 5er? Could it be down to taller gearing on the 535d, rather than an aero issue? The vid showed plenty of revs at that V Max. What's the rpm/mph ratio on the 335d?

By the way, I'd be extrmely impressed to see a 335d do over 174 at V Max! It's not as long as you think you know and the corner at the end of the runway arrives sooner than you think too.
M3 CSL's only get mid 160's, so it would be impressive to get over 170!!

dxb335d

2,905 posts

226 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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Cyclone1 said:
Aeroresh said:
Ive asked them about a stronger map for mine to be told they dont do one!
They don't. Most tuners will do a softer map or one that gives better mpg.

With the safety features built into the ECU/Software most tuners offer a map that is just within the max tolerances. In order to offer a "stronger" map something would have to be compromised, e.g. the safety features would have to be over-ridden, this is possible but not recommended and most Tuners would not offer this.

Jules.
In what way is your map compromised then Jules?


davidd said:
dxb335d said:
eowen said:
Is a 335d lighter/more slippery? Would a chipped 335d go quicker still?
It is the standard DMS map, same as what myself and Jules run. I would have thought the 3series coupe would go quicker. Its lighter and contarary to what has alredy been said I believe it is more aerodynamic than a 5series.

Carlos
Carlos

When did you get it done? I thought you were going with emaps, why did you change your mind?
I thought I saw you on little walden rd on tuesday, I was in a blue 520dmsport pretending to be a ships captain smile

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Hi there Davidd, i didnt realise you were local to me?!

How do you know its me lol?

I decided on DMS for many reasons, i have a detailed post elsewhere which i can email to you if your interested?!

I didnt see you on tuesday?! you should have flashed!!biggrin


Carlos

pgilc1

40,169 posts

228 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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Surely a remapped 535d is the ultimate saloon car?

Amazing power
Stunning top speed
Great economy
Excellent Resale
Sensible road tax
Reasonable insurance
Space for 5 people

Arguably the only other choice is a 335d

davidd

6,719 posts

315 months

Thursday 21st February 2008
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dxb335d said:
Hi there Davidd, i didnt realise you were local to me?!

How do you know its me lol?

I decided on DMS for many reasons, i have a detailed post elsewhere which i can email to you if your interested?!

I didnt see you on tuesday?! you should have flashed!!biggrin

Carlos
Well it was in Saffron Walden, a black/dark coupe with a reg of dxb!

I live in Linton, work in Little Walden (or london, or somewhere up the m6, a14 etc, etc).

Can you send me the post as I've had a chat with Jules and know who I won't be using.. It DMS or Emaps.... but I'd like to know how you came to DMS.

Cheers

D