Is crime on a ferry not a crime?
Discussion
V8S said:
What laws apply to the people more than 20 miles from land, say a ferry to Spain from the UK? I was just pondering whether anything goes or whether there's some kind of broad international Ten Commandments in place to stop murder and mayhem.
never getting on a ferry with you. 
I guess you mean The Pride of Bilbau (sp?) if so the "Security Officer" is an ex RN Chief Stoker, a really nice guy but not to be messed with, he's got his own little suit of cells down in the bowels of the ship, pepper spray, handcuffs, and batons, he is the law and answers only to the Captain who has complete authority.
I can only answer for the longest ferry trip I've experienced - Aberdeen to Shetland. 120 miles, 14 hours. If I remember, anyone causing too much hassle would be handcuffed to a shackle on the car deck overnight and handed over to the local BiB in the morning. After a quick appearance before the Sheriff, the return journey to Aberdeen would be by air, handcuffed to a nice polisman, destination Craiginches nick 
mel said:
I guess you mean The Pride of Bilbau (sp?) if so the "Security Officer" is an ex RN Chief Stoker, a really nice guy but not to be messed with, he's got his own little suit of cells down in the bowels of the ship, pepper spray, handcuffs, and batons, he is the law and answers only to the Captain who has complete authority.
Has this been in the news then? I was just daydreaming about where one might snuff out, legally, the life of the f*cktards who destroyed the Jag in General Gassing. I remembered that most countries claim up to 5 miles of the sea around their land, and assumed no one has jurisdiction over the huge swathes of the globe not near claimed land.V8S said:
mel said:
I guess you mean The Pride of Bilbau (sp?) if so the "Security Officer" is an ex RN Chief Stoker, a really nice guy but not to be messed with, he's got his own little suit of cells down in the bowels of the ship, pepper spray, handcuffs, and batons, he is the law and answers only to the Captain who has complete authority.
Has this been in the news then? I was just daydreaming about where one might snuff out, legally, the life of the f*cktards who destroyed the Jag in General Gassing. I remembered that most countries claim up to 5 miles of the sea around their land, and assumed no one has jurisdiction over the huge swathes of the globe not near claimed land.
mel said:
V8S said:
mel said:
I guess you mean The Pride of Bilbau (sp?) if so the "Security Officer" is an ex RN Chief Stoker, a really nice guy but not to be messed with, he's got his own little suit of cells down in the bowels of the ship, pepper spray, handcuffs, and batons, he is the law and answers only to the Captain who has complete authority.
Has this been in the news then? I was just daydreaming about where one might snuff out, legally, the life of the f*cktards who destroyed the Jag in General Gassing. I remembered that most countries claim up to 5 miles of the sea around their land, and assumed no one has jurisdiction over the huge swathes of the globe not near claimed land.GPSHead said:
What about the likes of Dame Ellen MacArthur? What if she'd gone sailing with someone else in her own vessel and killed them when far enough from land?
How would anyone ever know? She would just report 'man overboard'. (assuming she could weigh down the corpse so that it sank)streaky said:
GPSHead said:
What about the likes of Dame Ellen MacArthur? What if she'd gone sailing with someone else in her own vessel and killed them when far enough from land?
Then she'd have been breaking the rules ... she was sailing single-handed 
- StreakyMaybe we should ask the Iranians for our boat back...the one they nicked full of our Navys' finest a while back?
Kind of off topic, but relevant?
""It is only right to draw attention to Miles Kingtons French Navy pun, surely the finest Franglais pun ever coined and a worthy epitaph.
The French Navy, he claimed, had adopted a new, uplifting slogan, to spur its seamen to valour and glory in Frances hour of need: "To the water! The hour has come".
Or, in French...
"A l'eau. C'est l'heure"""
BOF.
Kind of off topic, but relevant?
""It is only right to draw attention to Miles Kingtons French Navy pun, surely the finest Franglais pun ever coined and a worthy epitaph.
The French Navy, he claimed, had adopted a new, uplifting slogan, to spur its seamen to valour and glory in Frances hour of need: "To the water! The hour has come".
Or, in French...
"A l'eau. C'est l'heure"""
BOF.
I think the master of a vessel has pretty much ultimate power over those aboard.
I sailed on the STS Sir Winston Churchill in my youth, and the captain informed us he could hang us if we mutinied.
British courts have decided on criminal acts committed on British vessels.
There is a stated case on murder, where 2 men in an open boat killed and ate the cabinboy to survive, for example.
I sailed on the STS Sir Winston Churchill in my youth, and the captain informed us he could hang us if we mutinied.
British courts have decided on criminal acts committed on British vessels.
There is a stated case on murder, where 2 men in an open boat killed and ate the cabinboy to survive, for example.
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