Speeding on the M5, whats gunna happen?
Speeding on the M5, whats gunna happen?
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gorisan26

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260 posts

237 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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Hi folks, some advice would be gratefully received.

On my way home towards Devon on the M5 today I was pulled for excessive speed, I was offered a fixed penalty 3 points and £60 until I was asked about the health of my licence (9 points). Due to the consequences of the totting up process they had to put me forward for a court summons for excessive speed, fair enough!

My licence has three points due to come off in august and the remaining six in may 2009.

My question is what are my chances of the court letting me run on 12 points till august when three will come off, I run my own business that relies on my licence, my 2nd job(evening job) relies on it and worst of all I live in rural Devon and my girlfriend of 7 years lives/works in London so I tend to commute up to there most weekends.

I'm not looking for sympathy in any way, just advice and also what the worst case might be?

many thanks

Gorisan26

SplatSpeed

7,491 posts

282 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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delaying tactics till may

adjournments??

alanm_3

370 posts

270 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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Well I'm in Scotland and can speak from personal experience that the "totting up" process is calculated from the date of offence, not when it goes to court, so assuming you were on 9 points at the date of offence, even though 3 points may have subsequently come off, they will still be taken into account. Perhaps a good lawyer could argue the point, but I would think that it's very unlikely that the court would let you drive with 12 points on your license. I have heard of instances where people have been given "deffered" points on their license, so that any more misdemeaners would result in an instant ban.


Good luck!!

gorisan26

Original Poster:

260 posts

237 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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They advised me in the car that the amount of points at the time of the offence is what counts, is this correct?

dazren

22,612 posts

292 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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gorisan26 said:
They advised me in the car that the amount of points at the time of the offence is what counts, is this correct?
yes

gorisan26

Original Poster:

260 posts

237 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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Looks like I'm walking then!!!!

What is the general length of ban in that case?

PottyMouth

470 posts

227 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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6 Months.

SpudGunner

472 posts

290 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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What? Six months? Are you taking the p?

Cant believe he will get anywhere near that long unless it was drimk driving or similar

biglepton

5,042 posts

232 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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SpudGunner said:
What? Six months? Are you taking the p?

Cant believe he will get anywhere near that long unless it was drimk driving or similar
I think the 6 month ban is pretty much automatic in these cases, because they can see no evidence of you learning from your past prosecutions, so they have to stop you driving.

http://www.drivingban.co.uk/drivingban/tottingup/d...

BIG DUNC

1,930 posts

254 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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I was told by someone who really should know that "reaching 12 points WILL be a six month ban ( just for reaching 12 ) PLUS the punishment for the offence that gets you to 12.
When I reached 10 points I considered it a suspended sentance and drove like a snail for, err, 6 weeks until the novilty of having someone sitting against the rear bumber wore off. I did, however, keep myself point free until my licence was back in single figures......

gorisan26

Original Poster:

260 posts

237 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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I think in the case of totting up they come down harder than a single high speed offence, bug*er!

109 Bob

3,762 posts

249 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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When I got banned a few years ago for topping up I got 6 months. The 3 people who went into court before me got NO ban & were allowed to continue driving on 12 points. None of them in my opinion had special circumstances as in other people relying on them driving. I came out thinking "luck of the draw"

gorisan26

Original Poster:

260 posts

237 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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Is it worth getting someone to defend me ja think or will it stand to dig me deaper into the sh*t? any ideas what money it would set me back?

Edited by gorisan26 on Wednesday 27th February 23:27

fluffnik

20,156 posts

258 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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Excessive speed, or exceeding a number on a stick?
They're not the same thing, despite what your oppressors would have you believe.

fluffnik

20,156 posts

258 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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gorisan26 said:
Looks like I'm walking then!!!!
Don't forget to destroy your oppressors.

Vote early, vote often. wink

gorisan26

Original Poster:

260 posts

237 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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gorisan26 said:
Is it worth getting someone to defend me ja think or will it stand to dig me deaper into the sh*t? any ideas what money it would set me back?

Edited by gorisan26 on Wednesday 27th February 23:27
ok, nice thoughts on overturning the government but.....any ideas on the above?

fluffnik

20,156 posts

258 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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gorisan26 said:
gorisan26 said:
Is it worth getting someone to defend me ja think or will it stand to dig me deaper into the sh*t? any ideas what money it would set me back?
ok, nice thoughts on overturning the government but.....any ideas on the above?
Even if you hire a brief who wins it's still wise to overthrow the state. smile

gorisan26

Original Poster:

260 posts

237 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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fluffnik said:
gorisan26 said:
gorisan26 said:
Is it worth getting someone to defend me ja think or will it stand to dig me deaper into the sh*t? any ideas what money it would set me back?
ok, nice thoughts on overturning the government but.....any ideas on the above?
Even if you hire a brief who wins it's still wise to overthrow the state. smile
ok, I promis I'll vote, as long as I can get there if I still have a licence.....

Edited by gorisan26 on Wednesday 27th February 23:58

jimmyb

12,254 posts

247 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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Im afraid i have to ask. How the f did you manage to get so many points. I mean I know the anti speed taliban are truly obsessed with their mission esp in certain parts of the country but ????

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

248 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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You'll need to convince the court that losing your licence would leave you or others in exceptional hardship. For example, if others rely on you to be able to drive to prevent them suffering exceptional hardship, this is likely to let you continue driving.

If you would not be able to get another job (losing your job isn't exceptional hardship, but not being able to get another might be), this could be exceptional hardship.

If the court accepts your case and lets you keep driving, you must remember, you won't be able to use exceptional hardship as mitigation again, should you get caught again.

Edited by 10 Pence Short on Thursday 28th February 09:38