Japanese engines
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kenmorton

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271 posts

267 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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Anyone got any decent links for importers of single engines from japan or japanese exporters? Just need a single engine on a pallet or in a crate not a whole container load.

stevieturbo

17,831 posts

264 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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If its just one you are after...surely it would be cheaper to buy local...

At least then you can have some sort of warranty, and see before you buy.

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

277 months

Friday 29th February 2008
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Which engine are you after? There must be one in the UK.

kenmorton

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271 posts

267 months

Friday 29th February 2008
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Honda c32a type 2.
Basicly the Honda 3.2l v6 from the legend but the type 2 (or the manual gearbox) was never put in any of the cars we got here, only offered in Japan and the USA. Only slight differences but ones which push the torque curve up the rev range which is useful for my aplication.

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

277 months

Friday 29th February 2008
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^ is it common in the US?

Markh

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292 months

kenmorton

Original Poster:

271 posts

267 months

Sunday 2nd March 2008
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Ebay link - type 1 engine same as we get over here.

Type 2 engines were available in the states. I have some links to sites over there ofering type 2 engines (including ebay.com) but a most of thier engines have covered a lot of miles whereas the japanese ones seem to be lowish milage.

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

277 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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kenmorton said:
Ebay link - type 1 engine same as we get over here.

but a most of thier engines have covered a lot of miles whereas the japanese ones seem to be lowish milage.
Think that's something to do with their mot system or only having cars below a certain mileage which is why we got so many imports at a good price. They didn't want them.

chuntington101

5,733 posts

253 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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what application is it for??

Chris.

kenmorton

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271 posts

267 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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Spare engine for my Phantom Vortex. Present one has a lot of miles on it and with its nice big turbo running 11 psi boost it is using some oil. Not really economic to refurb unless it was going to get forged pistons etc for a mad boost increase and then the gearbox wouldn't be very happy. So if a type 2 was available at reasonable money the better high speed breathing would be nice.

chuntington101

5,733 posts

253 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
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sounds like a very intresting car mate! how do the Honda engines handle the boost?? have you done anything fuel wise?? do you rate the phantom??

cheers

Chris.

kenmorton

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271 posts

267 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
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Engine had 150k miles on it. Just took the heads off and sump to see what the insides were like (remarkably clean) before just bolting it all back together with new head and sump gaskets. Didn't touch the internals and even used the original head bolts.
Original cast exhaust manifolds machined and 1½" stainless pipe used up to single GT30 turbo then 3" after that. New CNC ally plenum chamber, 3" CNC throtle body, air/water intercooler, 550cc injectors, 256ltr walbro clone pump, Omex 710 management plus a few other mods.
3k miles now with no engine problems, handles the boost easily - have had some teething problems but they have been down to me and the fact the car is far from standard but they are being ironed out now.
I just love the shape of the Phantom and the driving is good as well.

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

277 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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So is a hone and re-ring out of the question? Measure the bores etc?

SkinnyBoy

4,635 posts

275 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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have you considered an NSX C32A engine and gearbox set up. Basically its the same engine dimensions. Would of thought that would be easier to source in the UK than going through the expense of shipping a single engine in from Japan.

kenmorton

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271 posts

267 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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Boosted - not too worried about it using a bit of oil, just want a spare engine in case the planned boost increase to 14psi ends in tears. Been talking to a bloke in Australia who has turboed a few of these engines (also type 1 as they didn't get type 2 either) and he reckons the pistons start falling apart at about 12psi on extremly hot Australian summer days. He is now getting ~700bhp from them using standard crank and head gaskets but with steel rods and forged pistons plus intake and exhaust mods. That sort of power hike would destroy my gearbox and even if I sorted that out the car would be undrivable, plus the pistons and rods run out about £2,500.
Skinny - NSX engine was the C32B and apart from being a 3.2ltr v6 is totally different to the C32A. It was based on the block of the C27A but with heavilly moded internals and twin cam vtech heads. I tried to get one when I was first building the car but the nearest one I could find was in Northern Ireland and they wanted £4,000 with no gearbox or ancilliaries. I also asked for a price from Honda U.K. for a new engine - £32,000!

SkinnyBoy

4,635 posts

275 months

Thursday 6th March 2008
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kenmorton said:
Boosted - not too worried about it using a bit of oil, just want a spare engine in case the planned boost increase to 14psi ends in tears. Been talking to a bloke in Australia who has turboed a few of these engines (also type 1 as they didn't get type 2 either) and he reckons the pistons start falling apart at about 12psi on extremly hot Australian summer days. He is now getting ~700bhp from them using standard crank and head gaskets but with steel rods and forged pistons plus intake and exhaust mods. That sort of power hike would destroy my gearbox and even if I sorted that out the car would be undrivable, plus the pistons and rods run out about £2,500.
Skinny - NSX engine was the C32B and apart from being a 3.2ltr v6 is totally different to the C32A. It was based on the block of the C27A but with heavilly moded internals and twin cam vtech heads. I tried to get one when I was first building the car but the nearest one I could find was in Northern Ireland and they wanted £4,000 with no gearbox or ancilliaries. I also asked for a price from Honda U.K. for a new engine - £32,000!
There you go hehe.

I thought it was a reworked legend engine, i stand corrected. My mate runs a wreckers here, I've got my eye on an NSX engine, 4 grand australian to me. Ive already got the calipers to be retrofitted to my steed. Im working on the engineering at teh moment to convert my prelude and have the NSX engine out the back.

kenmorton

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271 posts

267 months

Friday 7th March 2008
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Skiney - it was a reworked Legend engine, but the earlier 2.7ltr one not the 3.2ltr one. At 4,000aus$ that is a bargain!

SkinnyBoy

4,635 posts

275 months

Friday 7th March 2008
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kenmorton said:
Skiney - it was a reworked Legend engine, but the earlier 2.7ltr one not the 3.2ltr one. At 4,000aus$ that is a bargain!
Cheaper than getting a J series V6 and working that as well. Good luck on sourcing one. Im lucky because my mates an NSX freak, got a Type Zero and a Type R the lucky bastid! So he always has a supply of NSX bits. I was going to install the seats in my prelude but they are too wide at the base, mores the pity.

Bizzle

544 posts

218 months

Friday 14th March 2008
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They really are like rocking horse s**t hover here mate.
Contact Jap Performance Parts in Crawley - they will source you one from Japan and land it to your door.

www.japperformanceparts.co.uk

GravelBen

16,177 posts

247 months

Monday 17th March 2008
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Heres a cheap C32A, but its in NZ and might be the type 1:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts...