Dead passenger left in car--Crime scene or What??
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I was accosted by a woman at a party who, on hearing I was old bill, decided to have a go at me for an accident in Hants where one night a sports car - it might have been a Spitfire - crashed into the wall of her front garden, seriously injuring the driver and not doing a lot for the health of the wall.
When she got up in the morning she opened the curtains to the staircase window, looked out across the flat roof of her garage and lo and behold there was the ex passenger. It evidently gave her a fright. As it would I suppose.
She said the police, who had no reason to suspect there were two people in the car, behaved in a slap dash manner. I was too frightened to make a joke of the obvious pun.
There were, evidently, bits missing off the body and they could be found in the car, but only if you were looking. This was around 1985, about five years or so after the accident. I told her she really needed to let it rest.
When she got up in the morning she opened the curtains to the staircase window, looked out across the flat roof of her garage and lo and behold there was the ex passenger. It evidently gave her a fright. As it would I suppose.
She said the police, who had no reason to suspect there were two people in the car, behaved in a slap dash manner. I was too frightened to make a joke of the obvious pun.
There were, evidently, bits missing off the body and they could be found in the car, but only if you were looking. This was around 1985, about five years or so after the accident. I told her she really needed to let it rest.
They are somewhat different out here...
I went to a locals bar and the conversation went like this:
Do you remember the great crash of 1998
Yes, that was a good one. Fellow went straight off and into the ditch..
Ah, but not as good as the fellow in 87, he took out the whole wall, and the ditch. Farmer X took three hours to pull his car out, and it took us two hours to sober him up before we could call the old bill...
Yes, but what about the winter of ... (I forget now, as I'd actually though I'd somehow been transported into The Vicar of Dibley - but this was about a dodgy corner with a small bridge and wall, not the weather) when we had 3 crashes in the week.. Farmer X left his tractor there in the end to get them out quicker......
And there were more.... Around 10 mins worth of discussion of various RTAs along the one bit of road which is an NSL but has a nearly 90 corner...
I went to a locals bar and the conversation went like this:
Do you remember the great crash of 1998
Yes, that was a good one. Fellow went straight off and into the ditch..
Ah, but not as good as the fellow in 87, he took out the whole wall, and the ditch. Farmer X took three hours to pull his car out, and it took us two hours to sober him up before we could call the old bill...
Yes, but what about the winter of ... (I forget now, as I'd actually though I'd somehow been transported into The Vicar of Dibley - but this was about a dodgy corner with a small bridge and wall, not the weather) when we had 3 crashes in the week.. Farmer X left his tractor there in the end to get them out quicker......
And there were more.... Around 10 mins worth of discussion of various RTAs along the one bit of road which is an NSL but has a nearly 90 corner...
Dvdtruefact
Late 60's chap during the night driving north A1 in small sports car alone for some reason left the road, crashed through hedge, only leaving small amount of damage, into field of tall, almost ripe oats. Vehicle eventually came to a stop, out of sight, after having completed a curve.
It was only several hours later when farmer investigating damage to hedge followed track and came across the vehicle with the driver dead at the wheel. Had he not been inquisitive, may have remained there until harvest time.
Worst I ever attended was lad in amini that crashed, fired and couldn't get out and burnt to death. All one could smell at the scene was of roast pork - most obscene.
dvd
Late 60's chap during the night driving north A1 in small sports car alone for some reason left the road, crashed through hedge, only leaving small amount of damage, into field of tall, almost ripe oats. Vehicle eventually came to a stop, out of sight, after having completed a curve.
It was only several hours later when farmer investigating damage to hedge followed track and came across the vehicle with the driver dead at the wheel. Had he not been inquisitive, may have remained there until harvest time.
Worst I ever attended was lad in amini that crashed, fired and couldn't get out and burnt to death. All one could smell at the scene was of roast pork - most obscene.
dvd
Nearby my parents' house one summer's evening many years ago, a Rover 110 broadsided a MG Midget. Driver pronounced at scene. Tow truck arrived and removed Midget (Rover was drivable). Two days later someone at the garage wondered about the smell coming from the wreck ... the passenger had been crushed into the footwell and totally obscured by the debris - Streaky
Los Angeles Times, December 17, 2007
Body is found in L.A. tow yard a day after car accident
Authorities want to know how the woman was overlooked when the driver, her son, was removed at crash scene.
By Kenneth R. Weiss, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
The body of an elderly woman was discovered Sunday in the front passenger side of a crumpled car in a San Fernando Valley towing company's yard -- a day after paramedics had removed her son from the same vehicle after a crash, authorities said.
The woman, whose identity was not released, had apparently been left in the car at the accident scene in Tarzana even as her son was taken to a hospital, police said.
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- Woman found in tow yard died soon after crash, officials say Investigators began looking for her after family members reported that two relatives -- not one -- were missing, Officer Mike Lopez of the Los Angeles Police Department said.
"We conducted a follow-up to the tow yard, and we discovered the woman inside the vehicle," Lopez said. "She was dead."
LAPD detectives and officials on Sunday afternoon and evening swarmed the vehicle lot at Howard Sommers Towing Inc., an official police impound and tow yard in Canoga Park, trying to determine how city paramedics and traffic officers had failed to spot the woman in the damaged vehicle.
The slightly built woman had been concealed beneath an air bag that had deployed during the accident, police said. The vehicle was badly banged-up after crashing into a building.
The Los Angeles County coroner's office dispatched investigators late Sunday to examine and remove the body.
"There are a lot of questions and we don't have all of the answers," Lopez said, adding that authorities are "conducting an investigation surrounding this unfortunate incident."
The incident began about 10 a.m. Saturday when the vehicle driven by the woman's son hit a parked car in a bank parking lot and then crashed into the building at 19255 W. Ventura Blvd.
Los Angeles Fire Department paramedics removed the driver from the vehicle and took him to Northridge Hospital Medical Center, said spokesman Brian Humphrey. He did not release the driver's name, age or medical condition.
The car was then towed about seven miles to the impound yard, where it sat overnight. The city's Department of Building and Safety, meanwhile, was called in to check for structural damage at the bank after the car was pulled from the building.
On Sunday afternoon, authorities called the impound yard and asked an employee to look in the vehicle for anything unusual, a source said.
About 3:15 p.m., the Fire Department's emergency medical technicians were summoned by the towing yard, Humphrey said. "We had one person declared deceased at the scene. . . .
"Obviously, there is interest in our department in what happened. We are awaiting the results of the LAPD investigation. It's purely a law enforcement investigation at this time."
The coroner's office dispatched investigators late Sunday to examine and remove the woman's body.
They did not reach an immediate conclusion as to the precise time or cause of death, said coroner's spokesman Lt. John Kades. Such details will come after a more thorough examination of the body.
"The doctors may have a conclusion after the autopsy if this person died instantly or not," Kades said.
"That's a possibility, but there's no way to tell or predict."
Body is found in L.A. tow yard a day after car accident
Authorities want to know how the woman was overlooked when the driver, her son, was removed at crash scene.
By Kenneth R. Weiss, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
The body of an elderly woman was discovered Sunday in the front passenger side of a crumpled car in a San Fernando Valley towing company's yard -- a day after paramedics had removed her son from the same vehicle after a crash, authorities said.
The woman, whose identity was not released, had apparently been left in the car at the accident scene in Tarzana even as her son was taken to a hospital, police said.
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- Woman found in tow yard died soon after crash, officials say Investigators began looking for her after family members reported that two relatives -- not one -- were missing, Officer Mike Lopez of the Los Angeles Police Department said.
"We conducted a follow-up to the tow yard, and we discovered the woman inside the vehicle," Lopez said. "She was dead."
LAPD detectives and officials on Sunday afternoon and evening swarmed the vehicle lot at Howard Sommers Towing Inc., an official police impound and tow yard in Canoga Park, trying to determine how city paramedics and traffic officers had failed to spot the woman in the damaged vehicle.
The slightly built woman had been concealed beneath an air bag that had deployed during the accident, police said. The vehicle was badly banged-up after crashing into a building.
The Los Angeles County coroner's office dispatched investigators late Sunday to examine and remove the body.
"There are a lot of questions and we don't have all of the answers," Lopez said, adding that authorities are "conducting an investigation surrounding this unfortunate incident."
The incident began about 10 a.m. Saturday when the vehicle driven by the woman's son hit a parked car in a bank parking lot and then crashed into the building at 19255 W. Ventura Blvd.
Los Angeles Fire Department paramedics removed the driver from the vehicle and took him to Northridge Hospital Medical Center, said spokesman Brian Humphrey. He did not release the driver's name, age or medical condition.
The car was then towed about seven miles to the impound yard, where it sat overnight. The city's Department of Building and Safety, meanwhile, was called in to check for structural damage at the bank after the car was pulled from the building.
On Sunday afternoon, authorities called the impound yard and asked an employee to look in the vehicle for anything unusual, a source said.
About 3:15 p.m., the Fire Department's emergency medical technicians were summoned by the towing yard, Humphrey said. "We had one person declared deceased at the scene. . . .
"Obviously, there is interest in our department in what happened. We are awaiting the results of the LAPD investigation. It's purely a law enforcement investigation at this time."
The coroner's office dispatched investigators late Sunday to examine and remove the woman's body.
They did not reach an immediate conclusion as to the precise time or cause of death, said coroner's spokesman Lt. John Kades. Such details will come after a more thorough examination of the body.
"The doctors may have a conclusion after the autopsy if this person died instantly or not," Kades said.
"That's a possibility, but there's no way to tell or predict."
Jasandjules said:
streaky said:
the passenger had been crushed into the footwell and totally obscured by the debris - Streaky
Eeewwww.........I attended the scene. The debris was spread over 50 yards and the Midget was folded up around itself (and the passenger).
The driver had been thrown out suffering traumatic amputation of one arm (it was lying alongside the remains of the car, whilst the driver was some 30 yards away). Death was immediately evident as his occiput was crushed to the plane of his ears.
I subsequently learned (both the Casualty Registrar and the pathologist were friends) that the passenger died instantly too having suffered multiple breaks and dislocations between C1 and C7 in addition to massive other traumi to his spine and other major bones and internal organs.
Streaky
The unit I was in was called to the scene of a single vehicle accident where the driver, a woman, was quite badly injured but the passenger, a chap, was worse. He was unconscious and she was dazed. We were called to assist with traffic control - which I used to thoroughly enjoy - but the ambulance crew called the police to their vehicle in which the woman was gradually coming round. She kept crying about her baby evidently (I stayed I position to piss of cabbies so I wasn't involved) and the police were told to search the car. The fire/rescue service were called but before they arrived it was realised that the woman was pregnant and worried that she might lose it. So there was this RTA with blood and bits of people all over one of the cars with two police offices doubled up with laughter. I went to hospital with the bloke for continuity in case he died but never found out if the woman lost the baby.
A true one. It also indicates how hit and miss juries can be. This was seen from my point of view as Clerk of Court.
Small remote community, a car crashes and bursts into flames. One of the occupants (a man)is thrown clear and survives. The other (his girlfriend) is trapped and dies. It was his car so he was prosecuted under S1 of the RTA 1972 in front of a jury.
Neither had been wearing seatbelts, and the girls body was found on the drivers side of the car. The defence? She was driving, not him. A lot of evidence was led, but in my unbiased opinion he was lying through his teeth. The jury, however, didn't think that a nice local lad would (a) drive dangerously and (b) lie. So they acquitted him.
The old judge, who was always unfailingly polite, stormed off the bench without a word to the jury.
The family of the dead girl were, needless to say, devastated.
Darwin came into play a few months later, though. The guy concerned crashed his car a few months later, only a few miles from the scene of the first accident. He was alone in the car, was trapped underneath, and was not found until several hours later, by which time he was dead.
Small remote community, a car crashes and bursts into flames. One of the occupants (a man)is thrown clear and survives. The other (his girlfriend) is trapped and dies. It was his car so he was prosecuted under S1 of the RTA 1972 in front of a jury.
Neither had been wearing seatbelts, and the girls body was found on the drivers side of the car. The defence? She was driving, not him. A lot of evidence was led, but in my unbiased opinion he was lying through his teeth. The jury, however, didn't think that a nice local lad would (a) drive dangerously and (b) lie. So they acquitted him.
The old judge, who was always unfailingly polite, stormed off the bench without a word to the jury.
The family of the dead girl were, needless to say, devastated.
Darwin came into play a few months later, though. The guy concerned crashed his car a few months later, only a few miles from the scene of the first accident. He was alone in the car, was trapped underneath, and was not found until several hours later, by which time he was dead.
matchmaker said:
Darwin came into play a few months later, though. The guy concerned crashed his car a few months later, only a few miles from the scene of the first accident. He was alone in the car, was trapped underneath, and was not found until several hours later, by which time he was dead.
Talk about not learning your lesson..Well, he did in the end, but still.
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