Trail /Enduro / Traffic Buster
Trail /Enduro / Traffic Buster
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benlg81

Original Poster:

313 posts

238 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
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Hi All

Just a quick shout as i am fed up with the constant traffic and spending a fortune on fuel every week just to sit in traffi c jams and it 30mph occasionally.

I am thinking of getting a 125cc enduro style bike for the daily trek to work (7 miles) and hopefully some green laning etc on weekends.

i was just wondering what the general thoughts are on the 125cc market and what bike would suit?

there seams to be hundreds of far east imports now from small name operations (to me any way i just think the main kawasaki, honda, suzuki, ktm etc)

are these bikes any good or are there any good new companies?

Pics and decscriptions if any ph'ers got one

All help and advice is greatly needed

Cheers in advance

Ben

Dare2Fail

3,808 posts

239 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
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I would have thought that your big problem with a 125 is that if you have any non 30mph roads that you ride to work on then it will get very tiresome. I would expect it to be very gutless. Kinda the problem that people have had with Supermotos in the past.

As to the theory you are applying, I think you are on the right lines. I used to commute on a sportsbike and then changed it for a KTM 950 Adventure. Although it is a big tank of a bike the visibility that you get from being way up high is a revelation!

benlg81

Original Poster:

313 posts

238 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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Hi Mate

the roads are all 30mph twisty streets etc so would be ideal for a bike i think, do 125 not go much quicker than 30?

also anyone have any experiance on these bikes on the road or even the cheaper far eastern imports?


y2blade

56,322 posts

246 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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how about a yamaha serow? not a 125 but a 225cc

very good little bikes

benlg81

Original Poster:

313 posts

238 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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i think i can only go upto a 125 with my car licence and possbile cbt

nice looking bike though

what are the main bikes to be looking for:

so far i got the cheap far east imports and the

yamaha dt125

but what are honda/kx etc equivilents?

Cheers

BEn

SplatSpeed

7,491 posts

282 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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my instructor has a 600cc single

and loves it torqy

and easy for around town

y2blade

56,322 posts

246 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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benlg81 said:
i think i can only go upto a 125 with my car licence and possbile cbt

nice looking bike though

what are the main bikes to be looking for:

so far i got the cheap far east imports and the

yamaha dt125

but what are honda/kx etc equivilents?

Cheers

BEn
ahh i see

DT125's are very good but thieves/scally's love them

how about a 125 veradero?



Edited by y2blade on Wednesday 5th March 10:51

hugoagogo

23,438 posts

264 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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benlg81 said:
Hi Mate

the roads are all 30mph twisty streets etc so would be ideal for a bike i think, do 125 not go much quicker than 30?
easily, even the most basic 125s will crack 50 or 60, derestricted race-reps will do the ton

benlg81

Original Poster:

313 posts

238 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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y2blade said:
benlg81 said:
i think i can only go upto a 125 with my car licence and possbile cbt

nice looking bike though

what are the main bikes to be looking for:

so far i got the cheap far east imports and the

yamaha dt125

but what are honda/kx etc equivilents?

Cheers

BEn
ahh i see

DT125's are very good but thieves/scally's love them

how about a 125 veradero?



Edited by y2blade on Wednesday 5th March 10:51
dont know what i think to that bike, i prefer the look of a motoX bike but road legal

benlg81

Original Poster:

313 posts

238 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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hugoagogo said:
benlg81 said:
Hi Mate

the roads are all 30mph twisty streets etc so would be ideal for a bike i think, do 125 not go much quicker than 30?
easily, even the most basic 125s will crack 50 or 60, derestricted race-reps will do the ton
i like the sound of that 50-60 is ample for commuting to work


Carl-H

947 posts

237 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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A de-restricted DT (which would be illegal unless you passed your test first) will do about 75 flat out and 60-65 restricted.

Tripps

5,814 posts

303 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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How's about the Yam XT125X?



Or the off-road R variant?

I really like my XT-X, good riding positon, comfortable and big enough not to look too much like a 125. 63 max if you need it, but it really doesn't like it!

Neither are up there with the DT, but for on-road work could do you proud.

Fire99

9,868 posts

260 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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DT is a great bike but i would suggest being a bit handy with the spanners.

Being a 2-stroke you may need to do a top-end rebuild of the cylinder etc at some point.
Easy work but still have to consider it.

oh and make sure you keep the 2-stroke tank with plenty of oil in it. Use it all up and its sieze time!

bimsb6

8,799 posts

252 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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Fire99 said:
DT is a great bike but i would suggest being a bit handy with the spanners.

Being a 2-stroke you may need to do a top-end rebuild of the cylinder etc at some point.
Easy work but still have to consider it.

oh and make sure you keep the 2-stroke tank with plenty of oil in it. Use it all up and its sieze time!
another vote for the dtr 125 .pretty nippy for round town and b roads .they should clear 70mph

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

240 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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If you are going to green lane it with any degree of sucess you need to consider that you will need to be able to pop the front up, over obsticles and ruts and to change from one rut to another on most green lanes.

If you are stuck to 125 then the DTR is good but, as pointed out 2 strokes can be a bit more delicate, especially if "tuned".

XTs are great bikes but a 125 4 stroke is never going to have much torque off road and will probably be a bit heavier that a 2 stroke.

The 225 Serow in a good bike, a mate had one, but the layout meant that when the pace picked up a bit the front end had a tendancy to push/wipe out.

Depending on what you want you could try to find a TT 125.
They are rare but TTs are more off road biased than XTs.

HTH

telecat

8,528 posts

272 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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Ok what about this!



It's the Scorpa TY125 Long Ride. It's a Trials bike that's been designed to chase Trials rather than compete although some have been seen in the SSDT. Yamaha supply the engines to Scorpa so it has the same unit as in the DT125X and TT-R 125.

Edited by telecat on Wednesday 5th March 20:49

bimsb6

8,799 posts

252 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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telecat said:
Ok what about this!



It's the Scorpa TY125 Long Ride. It's a Trials bike that's been designed to chase Trials rather than compete although some have been seen in the SSDT. Yamaha supply the engines to Scorpa so it has the same unit as in the DT125X and TT-R 125.

Edited by telecat on Wednesday 5th March 20:49
it's a four stroke so it's not a dt engine .

telecat

8,528 posts

272 months

Thursday 6th March 2008
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bimsb6 said:
telecat said:
Ok what about this!



It's the Scorpa TY125 Long Ride. It's a Trials bike that's been designed to chase Trials rather than compete although some have been seen in the SSDT. Yamaha supply the engines to Scorpa so it has the same unit as in the DT125X and TT-R 125.

Edited by telecat on Wednesday 5th March 20:49
it's a four stroke so it's not a dt engine .
The "old" DT125 was Two-stroke. They did do a DT 125 with a 4T engine but it's now the XT125.

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

240 months

Thursday 6th March 2008
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telecat said:
They did do a DT 125 with a 4T engine but it's now the XT125.
nono

Never did a DT with a 4T engine.
4 Strokes were always XTs or TTs and more recently WRs