Radiator design
Radiator design
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eff eff

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765 posts

234 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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I would like to run the top and bottom hoses to the drivers side of the rad. Would a vertical rad with in and out on the same side work?

Johno

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312 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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The radiator being set at an angle is purely a function of the require cooling capacity and the shape of the nose.

A vertical radiator would need to be of racing quality, and very well made to work as it's size I imagine would be much smaller.

How come you want both outlets on the drivers side ?

eff eff

Original Poster:

765 posts

234 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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Water in and out on the same side of the engine, could do it with hoses using the standard rad, just wanted to avoid a long top hose

Johno

8,593 posts

312 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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Purely for aesthetic reasons or is there an eficiency thing here I'm missing ?

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Thursday 6th March 2008
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Would water be forced through the matrix? I think you will need a different design of side tanks to achieve what you want. Can't see convection being in the same league as the flow characteristics, if you compare how easy it is to go down the tank compared to winding through the matrix wink

Dave

350Matt

3,907 posts

309 months

Thursday 6th March 2008
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You split the end tank halfway along

Matt

eff eff

Original Poster:

765 posts

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Thursday 6th March 2008
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350Matt said:
You split the end tank halfway along

Matt
How does that work?

eff eff

Original Poster:

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Thursday 6th March 2008
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Johno said:
Purely for aesthetic reasons or is there an eficiency thing here I'm missing ?
I'm planning an engine change and there's a lot to fit in the front of the engine so I'm trying to plan a neat solution.

GreenV8S

31,021 posts

314 months

Thursday 6th March 2008
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Yes. In fact vertical drop is preferable in many ways.

eff eff

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Thursday 6th March 2008
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So top and bottom tanks standard width rad. Does gravity effect the flow and cooling efficiency, do you think I would need a restrictor in the bottom outlet to keep the water in the rad for longer?

spend

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281 months

Thursday 6th March 2008
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If you restrict flow surely it just gets hotter in the engine?

Dave

GreenV8S

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314 months

Thursday 6th March 2008
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eff eff said:
Does gravity effect the flow and cooling efficiency,
Gravity (buoyancy, actually) make a big difference in horizontal flow rads because it determines how the water flow is distributed across the matrix under low flow conditions.

eff eff said:
do you think I would need a restrictor in the bottom outlet to keep the water in the rad for longer?
No. You want as little restriction as possible. And most importantly you want to ensure that you have an effective vent and degas system.

eff eff

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Thursday 6th March 2008
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spend said:
If you restrict flow surely it just gets hotter in the engine?

Dave
That's what I thought too, but during my research I saw restrictors used to slow the flow to keep the water in the rad longer to aid cooling. So I'm tying to understand all the variables.

eff eff

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Thursday 6th March 2008
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No. You want as little restriction as possible. And most importantly you want to ensure that you have an effective vent and degas system.
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Can you expand on that, does that mean they are more prone to air locks?

GreenV8S

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Thursday 6th March 2008
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eff eff said:
Can you expand on that, does that mean they are more prone to air locks?
All systems are prone to airlocks, unless you design in an effective vent and degas system.