Haldex HPP
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Akers

Original Poster:

463 posts

265 months

Monday 10th March 2008
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Does anyone have any experience of owning/driving Audi/VW transverse engined 4WD drives with the Haldex 2nd generation Performance-Part (HPP) fitted?
I have a S3 (8P) and am interested to know if this is a worthwhile upgrade. From what I've read the HPP inproves handling by more aggressively diverting torque to the rear, but I'd like to hear any PH'ers real world experiences before spending my hard earned!

Ta!

cuprabob

19,761 posts

244 months

Monday 10th March 2008
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There are a few post on this at Tyresmoke.net.

All the fedback that I've read is very positive and makes the car more neutral and reduces understeer quite a bit.

brisel

981 posts

238 months

Monday 10th March 2008
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Cuprabob is right. TSN has much more info on this, but here's my thoughts:

I have a MK IV R32 & the HPP was the first mod I had done to it. Since then I have had an air induction kit, Milltek, partial remap and front brake upgrade too. I blame TSN for all this... smile

The HPP is just a control module for the Haldex clutch. It speeds up the reaction time of the clutch pack, giving much improved balance in the corners and reducing understeer considerably. It made a huge difference to my R32!

It cost me about £500 plus 1/2 hr labour for fitting. You will really need the hands of a child & an inspection ramp/pit to fit it yourself! PM me if you want detailed instructions on how to fit it.

Do check on the A3/S3 forum on Tyresmoke though - your S3 may already have a good Haldex controller & the switchable Gen II controller might be more suitable for you.

You will never eliminate understeer on a Haldex transmission. Or any VAG car for that matter - even a Torsen quattro/4 Motion system. The Haldex is based on full time front wheel drive (with it's associated understeer) with the Haldex clutch engaging the rear wheels as necessary.

HTH

Akers

Original Poster:

463 posts

265 months

Tuesday 11th March 2008
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Thanks guys. I'll take a look at tyresmoke.net.

driving

bigburd

2,670 posts

230 months

Saturday 12th April 2008
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Give the chaps at APS a shout they have it fitted to one of their cars albeit a MKV R32 with a few other toys fitted... www.autops.co.uk

Dave B S3

3,280 posts

255 months

Saturday 12th April 2008
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Im looking to have one of these fitted to my 8L S3, ill let you know how I get on, you may see the effect at the next hoon or so

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bigburd

2,670 posts

230 months

Saturday 12th April 2008
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I have the GEN 1 Performance Controller on my R32, it changed the power distribution for the better and in my opinion safer...some good reports on here

http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/169568.aspx

Hmmm there looks to be another option to the HPP...detailed here...

http://www.hpamotorsports.com/haldex.htm

Edited by bigburd on Saturday 12th April 14:34