Hot Start problem , but not the usual....
Hot Start problem , but not the usual....
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bigdods

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7,175 posts

258 months

Tuesday 11th March 2008
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I seem to have the hot start problem again. Not as bad as the usual problem though, what happens is when she is hot I turn the ignition key and get a loud click but no turnover. repeat this 2 or 3 times and shev eventually turns and starts.

I already have the hot start kit fitted and I had a new starter motor and battery fitted about 8 months ago. I know the battery is fine as the engine turns over at high speed once it decides to go.

Could the solenoid have got gunged up already ? or maybe its an earth problem ?

All ideas welcome !

Cheers

Dodsy

TheGriffalo

72,863 posts

270 months

Tuesday 11th March 2008
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Loud click followed by nothing is usually the solenoid. You can often sort it temporarily by giving it a tap.

AREA

497 posts

256 months

Wednesday 12th March 2008
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I had similar problem... had the mod installed and a new starter motor under warranty but still had times when it wouldn't start when warm. Drove me mad.

After some embarrassment I then decided that I'd had enough and would never again suffer the indignation of having to push the car away from a petrol pump to wait for it to cool down, so: (1) ran a separate, thicker wire in parallel to the solenoid with a "push to make" switch under the dashboard to use in emergency, (2) ran the wires from the starter relay through a heat resistant sleeve, and (3) wrapped the starter motor in a heat shield.

Since then it's been a good as gold. Word of warning though: heat shield material (Versa Shield) is electrically conductive. Make REAL sure that there's absolutely no danger of it causing a short. I used heat shrink on the starter motor terminals and multiple cable ties to keep the shield in place.

rinker

179 posts

225 months

Monday 17th March 2008
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Mine was the same as yours, when turning over it was fine but sometimes only the click. new battery sorted it out, very pleased.

bigdods

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7,175 posts

258 months

Monday 17th March 2008
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I had that problem a while back , new battery 6 months ago and its definitely fully charged, and holding its charge properly. I think the solenoid must have got dirty somehow *sigh*

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Monday 17th March 2008
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bigdods said:
I had that problem a while back , new battery 6 months ago and its definitely fully charged, and holding its charge properly. I think the solenoid must have got dirty somehow *sigh*
Modwise hotstart kit is supposed to cure that.

Dave

bigdods

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7,175 posts

258 months

Monday 17th March 2008
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spend said:
bigdods said:
I had that problem a while back , new battery 6 months ago and its definitely fully charged, and holding its charge properly. I think the solenoid must have got dirty somehow *sigh*
Modwise hotstart kit is supposed to cure that.

Dave
Already fitted the hot start kit - it may be that I have the problem when its cold too, havent used it much recently to fully work out whats going on yet. But when it just went 'click' the other day my heart sank! Not a big job to drop the starter off and clean the solenoid, a little job for the summer.

Pupp

13,011 posts

303 months

Monday 17th March 2008
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bigdods said:
spend said:
bigdods said:
I had that problem a while back , new battery 6 months ago and its definitely fully charged, and holding its charge properly. I think the solenoid must have got dirty somehow *sigh*
Modwise hotstart kit is supposed to cure that.

Dave
Already fitted the hot start kit - it may be that I have the problem when its cold too, havent used it much recently to fully work out whats going on yet. But when it just went 'click' the other day my heart sank! Not a big job to drop the starter off and clean the solenoid, a little job for the summer.
Trust me, a 'click' is good. There are times I would have killed for a 'click'...

Cider Andy

1,889 posts

256 months

Tuesday 18th March 2008
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Recently had the same problem immediately after fitting a brand new starter motor. It was fine for a week or so but after the first time it jammed the starter motor became very noisy. It jammed a further three times and sounded worse and worse. Turned out to be faulty, cured with a replacement.

ads

1,369 posts

288 months

Wednesday 19th March 2008
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Sounds like the starter motor solenoid. Had the same problem a while back, took the starter motor off. Then took it apart cleaned it all up and put it back together and has been working fine since.

The solenoid had got a bit gummed up and i just cleaned it and re greased with high melting point grease when putting back together.

Might be woth ba go. smile