Car Tax ( Budget)
Car Tax ( Budget)
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Silver Man

Original Poster:

15 posts

235 months

Thursday 13th March 2008
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Has anyone worked out from the budget yesterday if it is going to make any difference to the TAX on our Cerbs???

I was just trying to work it out and as usual cant make head not tail of it

carl_w

10,766 posts

288 months

Thursday 13th March 2008
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Not unless you're buying a brand new one, which seems unlikely.

Edit: the BBC News website shows it far better than me:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/629/629/729301...

My Z4MC goes up from £400/yr this year to £440/year next year and £455/year the year after. mad
As the model Red-Ken ideal commuter (I get the bus, train and tube, or sometimes walk the last bit) I feel that I've been right royally stitched up.

Edited by carl_w on Thursday 13th March 08:54

JensenA

5,671 posts

260 months

Thursday 13th March 2008
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The way things seem to be going, in the years to come instead of thinking about transplanting LS1 engines, we'll all be clamouring to get a Golf Disel 1.9 Tdi fitted. yikes
It's all a load of anti-car bks anyway and just another way for HMG to raise money. Petrol is already taxed, so the more petrol you use, the more tax you pay - isn't that the fairest and most sensible way to hit the so called 'gas guzzlers' ?

Cyclone1

2,614 posts

276 months

Thursday 13th March 2008
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JensenA said:
The way things seem to be going, in the years to come instead of thinking about transplanting LS1 engines, we'll all be clamouring to get a Golf Disel 1.9 Tdi fitted. yikes
It's all a load of anti-car bks anyway and just another way for HMG to raise money. Petrol is already taxed, so the more petrol you use, the more tax you pay - isn't that the fairest and most sensible way to hit the so called 'gas guzzlers' ?
Or maybe the engine out of my Taxi - 3 ltr twin turbo pumping out 350bhp and 510lb/ft..... eek

Jules.

paulj

169 posts

309 months

Thursday 13th March 2008
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So whats the tax on 4.5 cerb going to be ? I cant figure it out as we dont have a C02 rating ?

RUSSELLM

6,002 posts

277 months

Thursday 13th March 2008
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£185 I think.


carl_w

10,766 posts

288 months

Thursday 13th March 2008
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I think it's actually rising to £200 from the current £185, but not a great deal of difference.

julian64

14,325 posts

284 months

Thursday 13th March 2008
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Yeah but what about my E39 M5. Born in March 2001?

touching cloth

11,706 posts

269 months

Thursday 13th March 2008
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julian64 said:
Yeah but what about my E39 M5. Born in March 2001?
anything from 1st March 01 onwards then you're buggered.. you'll be in the £440 bracket next year and then £455 by 2010. Cerbs, curr £180 will go up to £185 and then £200 for 2010. Wife's 2litre Alfa born June 01 will end up £310 or something stupid yikes

Edited by touching cloth on Thursday 13th March 10:23

paulj

169 posts

309 months

Thursday 13th March 2008
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so my 02 Cerb 4.5 is in the £440 band - ouch.

touching cloth

11,706 posts

269 months

Thursday 13th March 2008
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It's very unlikely, most TVR's are not banded due to being small volume (I say most as I remember a Tuscan owner once once saying his was shown as band F on one of his renewals), most are merely listed as PLG. This will mean that they are governed by the pre-mar 01 price that being £185 for anyhing over 1.6litres.

nelly1

5,665 posts

261 months

Thursday 13th March 2008
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BCA

8,651 posts

287 months

Thursday 13th March 2008
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Hmm, the Smarts tax seems to have gone down again... £30!! unless I am reading wrong?? its 118g I believe (cue light car jokes...)

Edited by BCA on Thursday 13th March 12:46

touching cloth

11,706 posts

269 months

Thursday 13th March 2008
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About to buy a Smart Roadster for my wife Ben, thought I looked it up last night and it was in the £90 bracket (D?).. or is the roadster in a higher band than Fourtwo's.

BCA

8,651 posts

287 months

Thursday 13th March 2008
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touching cloth said:
About to buy a Smart Roadster for my wife Ben, thought I looked it up last night and it was in the £90 bracket (D?).. or is the roadster in a higher band than Fourtwo's.
Yep, higher tax due to the wheels I believe/higher boost specified, higher weight, no quicker and as fragile... lol

Fortwo's are the better car IMHO (predictable, but I could afford a roadster, I just prefer a modded fortwo..) Boost/wheels can be added later you see. smile

As an aside, make sure the mileage of the car is low, these things are only meant to be good for 40 or 50k before needing new turbos and the engines arent good for more than 80k between apparently?? The AJP is a bullet proof masterpiece by comparison... good characterful cars though, something that most modern stuff is devoid of. Also make sure its serviced by an independant so you dont get completely screwed by merc dealers - I do alot of the work on my car myself (everything except software stuff/services) so I know them inside and out, avoiding huge cost in the process... this has made it pretty inexpensive to run, but not amazingly so.

Let me know if you need any further pointers/advice...

Range Rover Blue

23 posts

223 months

Friday 14th March 2008
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carl_w said:
As the model Red-Ken ideal commuter (I get the bus, train and tube, or sometimes walk the last bit) I feel that I've been right royally stitched up.
I drive a Nissan Micra for work and have a 5.0L TVR engined RRC for weekends/dogs/wife's wheelchair/caravan as a second car, so I feel equally agreived at beeing punished for owning a big car even when I'm not using it.

When it gets to the point where I can no longer afford to run both the Nissan will go, it simply can't do both jobs. If I were to give up the 'van and fly abroad every year then I'd be sqandering as much fossil fuel in a fortnight as I currently use all year.

Add to that my car is already twice the average age for scrapping a eurobox the issue of pulution is very grey indeed, a recent dust to dust survey proved that in real terms the toyota pious was worse for the environment than a hummer, simply because of how poluting they are to build and dispose of.

If they want to punish gas guzzlers then they should punish the ones guzzling all the gas.

No, it's about getting their hands even deeper into our pockets, like always. This gov't has ruined the country, just like they did before. We as a nation are massively in debt and now the time has come to tighten belts we are heading even deeper into debt. Expect more tax in the future guys, I don't see them sticking to their future projections on road tax at all.

PHILON

24 posts

243 months

Friday 14th March 2008
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Just for info this site has some Co2 figures for cerbs. My 4.5 is shown as 385g/km.

http://www.smmtco2.co.uk/co2search2.asp

Its all very unfare when you think that most Cerbs probably do less than 6000 miles a year so you can probably quarter the figure over a year compared to most cars!

RUSSELLM

6,002 posts

277 months

Friday 14th March 2008
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Phil, panic ye not, it's £185 smile

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicl...

I'll bring your attention to

DVLA site said:
Cars registered on or after 1 March 2001 (based on fuel type and CO2 emissions)
The rates shown only apply to cars that have been type approved in category M1 and registered on the basis of CO2 emissions measured in grams per kilometre (g/km) driven. These details are shown on the Registration Certificate.

PHILON

24 posts

243 months

Friday 14th March 2008
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Cheers for the info Russell!

It's put my mind at rest and created i bit of a talking point at work!!

PHILON

24 posts

243 months

Friday 14th March 2008
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Cheers for the info Russell!

It's put my mind at rest and created i bit of a talking point at work!!