What to do with a tennis court when you don't want it?
What to do with a tennis court when you don't want it?
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speed_EM

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66 posts

234 months

Friday 14th March 2008
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Guys I need your help.

I've got a double garage that's full of junk from a house move and the space for the twin doors is not enough to get the Gallardo into. I think they were made for a horse and cart!

Now I was thinking about knocking it down and putting up a decent garage to get him/her (been a year but I've still not decided) into. I posted a while back for some advice and recommendations as to what should be considered to convert the space to make the 'ideal' garage and got some great feedback, but now the thoughts have changed a tad.

There is a tennis court down the bottom of the garden and I can see it's possible to add some more driveway to link it to the main drive. BTW, I hate tennis and have no interest in running around after a ball, unless there is a basket involved.

What I'd really like to do is put some buildings there (perhaps wooden to avoid planning (min 4m height and 1m from boundary etc)), making use of the hard floor and have enough space to dump the motor and a few more but also enough room to create a 'chill area'. It should have toilet/kitchen and be self sufficient to spend plenty of evening hours tinkering.

So I suppose what I'm asking is, has anyone any experience in wooden structures for garages, contacts for suppliers, recommendations on what to watch out for or what to plan in?

Cheers
Andy


LongLiveTazio

2,714 posts

227 months

Friday 14th March 2008
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Some things to consider:

All cars are female unless it is a Bentley.

Tennis is rubbish.

Wooden garages look lovely: http://www.primeoak.co.uk/

Your insurance might specify a brick-built garage.

urraco 250 s

893 posts

241 months

Friday 14th March 2008
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LongLiveTazio said:
Some things to consider:

All cars are female unless it is a Bentley.

.
Hi

May I ask why

Thanks

Leslie

speed_EM

Original Poster:

66 posts

234 months

Friday 14th March 2008
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LongLiveTazio said:
Some things to consider:

All cars are female unless it is a Bentley.

Tennis is rubbish.

Wooden garages look lovely: http://www.primeoak.co.uk/

Your insurance might specify a brick-built garage.
Thanks LLT, primeoak look v interesting. I've sent for a brochure.



XXVIII

2,800 posts

244 months

Friday 14th March 2008
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I disagree with the genderising being quite so specific...

Once drove a shagged-out Hyundai dis-courtesy car that must have been a temper-tantrum male child

and a Countach 5000S which was the very bh that all the press would rave about (6lbs in sweat lost, ace car) and a Countach Anniversary which was the same colour but also a quite refined lady - 'levels' of ladylikeness obviously apply!

and a just-rebuilt Aston DB2-4 that sounded exactly like I imagine a Sargeant Major with tonsilitis would

and owned a Toyota Celica that gave the lie to the idea of a Toyota Celica being a reliable car, silly-stroppy old biffer she was

and a Honda Prelude that just refused to break down, ever - just a tough ol' love

and an Accord that had to be vandalised badly before it had to be put down... smashed to billy-o by some proto-chavs and yet it still started and was able to be driven on to the scrappies trailer, the woe, the woe - she was a dear old semi-retired Geisha, I reckon and deserved better - we used to poke fun and say that she didn't pull well past 90mph... bless

and my Lambo is named after a certain famous frog, who's apparenty quite male but with frogs, who ever would know for sure?

Edited by XXVIII on Friday 14th March 21:26

stimmers

2,312 posts

233 months

Friday 14th March 2008
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LongLiveTazio said:
Tennis is rubbish.
Only to those who don't have the basic co-ordination to play it

10JH

2,070 posts

224 months

Sunday 16th March 2008
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Build a very small (5-10cm) wall around the entire perimeter of the court. Then fill it with the hosepipe in winter and wait for it to freeze. Then you have your own ice skating rink!

Y8RSP

226 posts

229 months

Sunday 16th March 2008
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LongLiveTazio said:
Tennis is rubbish.
Unless you enjoy the dulcet tones of Sir Cliff...




(which I personally don't)

Adam T

1,300 posts

236 months

Sunday 16th March 2008
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SpeedEm,

do you foresee issues with Planning Permission? Could you not put in for planning, construct a nice triple garage with say your boys chill out area above, linked to the house, and while the builder is building you it get him to break out the existing tennis court and seed.turf it? It may be more expensive, but should add more vlaue to your property, as it may add a bedroom and on suite?

I appreciate I do not know your current house plan/garden etc so this may be useless information..

Good luck.

speed_EM

Original Poster:

66 posts

234 months

Sunday 16th March 2008
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I'd have planning restrictions which is why I'm going down the wooden route and it's also got to be a single storey. Also unable to link to the house due to driveway getting in the way.


Thanks
Andy


Adam T said:
SpeedEm,

do you foresee issues with Planning Permission? Could you not put in for planning, construct a nice triple garage with say your boys chill out area above, linked to the house, and while the builder is building you it get him to break out the existing tennis court and seed.turf it? It may be more expensive, but should add more vlaue to your property, as it may add a bedroom and on suite?

I appreciate I do not know your current house plan/garden etc so this may be useless information..

Good luck.

phib

4,520 posts

289 months

Monday 17th March 2008
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Having exactly the same issue at the moment been in my house for 4 years and am trying for planning on the house so am going for permitted development under 4m as well.

I am using

http://www.kingsland.uk.com/products.asp?prodcat_i...

Mine is similar to the one in the top right photo but with four bays and doors

I have gone for a 12m x 6m four bay garage but with three sets of doors ( 2.4m doors) the fourth with a window for the paint store ( if you know what I mean!!!) I have gone for a slate roof as on the low roof angle 27.5 degrees to get 6m with a ridge height of 4m concrete tiles leak.

Mine is a fully hipped with a log store, I looked at loads and loads Passmores,Broad oak etc etc basically most of the ones in the back of classic car mag

Been working on the plans for this for 3 years so if you have any questions ask away

Costs roughly

Base 5k
Roof 7k
Garage 17k ( including erection)

About 30k ish + Vat

Edited by phib on Monday 17th March 08:19


Edited by phib on Monday 17th March 08:26

mike360

938 posts

258 months

Monday 17th March 2008
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pictures?


phib said:
Having exactly the same issue at the moment been in my house for 4 years and am trying for planning on the house so am going for permitted development under 4m as well.

I am using

http://www.kingsland.uk.com/products.asp?prodcat_i...

Mine is similar to the one in the top right photo but with four bays and doors

I have gone for a 12m x 6m four bay garage but with three sets of doors ( 2.4m doors) the fourth with a window for the paint store ( if you know what I mean!!!) I have gone for a slate roof as on the low roof angle 27.5 degrees to get 6m with a ridge height of 4m concrete tiles leak.

Mine is a fully hipped with a log store, I looked at loads and loads Passmores,Broad oak etc etc basically most of the ones in the back of classic car mag

Been working on the plans for this for 3 years so if you have any questions ask away

Costs roughly

Base 5k
Roof 7k
Garage 17k ( including erection)

About 30k ish + Vat

Edited by phib on Monday 17th March 08:19


Edited by phib on Monday 17th March 08:26

Jules360

1,949 posts

232 months

Monday 17th March 2008
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Has this forum turned into Grand Designs ?

phib

4,520 posts

289 months

Monday 17th March 2008
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This is not mine but it looks like this but with 4 bays an both sides like the one on the right hand side:





Edited by phib on Monday 17th March 10:16

JCB123

2,265 posts

226 months

Monday 17th March 2008
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Planning Permission is a complitated affair...it is specific to where you live, proximity to buildings and roads etc.

Wooden buildings are not exempt from Planning. Some garages fall within permitted development rights, but only the smallest....something as large as a triple garage will probably require planning.

If you want anymore information drop me a line.

Jon
Architectural Technician

phib

4,520 posts

289 months

Monday 17th March 2008
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Jon, I thought so long as it was more than 5m from house, more than 1m from boundary and less that 4m in height no nearer the road than the house etc etc it was ok ?

Am I wrong ? or more importantly is my architect wrong !!!!

speed_EM

Original Poster:

66 posts

234 months

Monday 17th March 2008
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Thats what I heard too from someone who built a 4 car garage.

Andy

phib said:
Jon, I thought so long as it was more than 5m from house, more than 1m from boundary and less that 4m in height no nearer the road than the house etc etc it was ok ?

Am I wrong ? or more importantly is my architect wrong !!!!

JCB123

2,265 posts

226 months

Monday 17th March 2008
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phib said:
Jon, I thought so long as it was more than 5m from house, more than 1m from boundary and less that 4m in height no nearer the road than the house etc etc it was ok ?

Am I wrong ? or more importantly is my architect wrong !!!!
speed_EM said:
Thats what I heard too from someone who built a 4 car garage.

Andy

phib said:
Jon, I thought so long as it was more than 5m from house, more than 1m from boundary and less that 4m in height no nearer the road than the house etc etc it was ok ?

Am I wrong ? or more importantly is my architect wrong !!!!
It is a very complicated subject - but as a general rule - yes - you and your Architectype are correct... >5m from the existing house no closer to the road than the existing house, or <20m from the road, which ever is the greatest and <4m ridge height (3m if flat roof)

Sharief

6,547 posts

246 months

Monday 17th March 2008
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Adam T said:
SpeedEm,

do you foresee issues with Planning Permission? Could you not put in for planning, construct a nice triple garage with say your boys chill out area above, linked to the house, and while the builder is building you it get him to break out the existing tennis court and seed.turf it? It may be more expensive, but should add more vlaue to your property, as it may add a bedroom and on suite?

I appreciate I do not know your current house plan/garden etc so this may be useless information..

Good luck.
But if he was doing that... Surely leaving the tennis court in when the extension was built would add value to the house?

I was under the impression was that he wasn't in a position to extend the house, and so was hoping to build on top of the tennis court?

spark_s

105 posts

259 months

Monday 17th March 2008
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Not sure about the 1m from the boundary thought it was 2m?

Check out the general development order (google it if you want some reading read)



Edited by spark_s on Wednesday 3rd September 12:23