What to do with a tennis court when you don't want it?
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Guys I need your help.
I've got a double garage that's full of junk from a house move and the space for the twin doors is not enough to get the Gallardo into. I think they were made for a horse and cart!
Now I was thinking about knocking it down and putting up a decent garage to get him/her (been a year but I've still not decided) into. I posted a while back for some advice and recommendations as to what should be considered to convert the space to make the 'ideal' garage and got some great feedback, but now the thoughts have changed a tad.
There is a tennis court down the bottom of the garden and I can see it's possible to add some more driveway to link it to the main drive. BTW, I hate tennis and have no interest in running around after a ball, unless there is a basket involved.
What I'd really like to do is put some buildings there (perhaps wooden to avoid planning (min 4m height and 1m from boundary etc)), making use of the hard floor and have enough space to dump the motor and a few more but also enough room to create a 'chill area'. It should have toilet/kitchen and be self sufficient to spend plenty of evening hours tinkering.
So I suppose what I'm asking is, has anyone any experience in wooden structures for garages, contacts for suppliers, recommendations on what to watch out for or what to plan in?
Cheers
Andy
I've got a double garage that's full of junk from a house move and the space for the twin doors is not enough to get the Gallardo into. I think they were made for a horse and cart!
Now I was thinking about knocking it down and putting up a decent garage to get him/her (been a year but I've still not decided) into. I posted a while back for some advice and recommendations as to what should be considered to convert the space to make the 'ideal' garage and got some great feedback, but now the thoughts have changed a tad.
There is a tennis court down the bottom of the garden and I can see it's possible to add some more driveway to link it to the main drive. BTW, I hate tennis and have no interest in running around after a ball, unless there is a basket involved.
What I'd really like to do is put some buildings there (perhaps wooden to avoid planning (min 4m height and 1m from boundary etc)), making use of the hard floor and have enough space to dump the motor and a few more but also enough room to create a 'chill area'. It should have toilet/kitchen and be self sufficient to spend plenty of evening hours tinkering.
So I suppose what I'm asking is, has anyone any experience in wooden structures for garages, contacts for suppliers, recommendations on what to watch out for or what to plan in?
Cheers
Andy
Some things to consider:
All cars are female unless it is a Bentley.
Tennis is rubbish.
Wooden garages look lovely: http://www.primeoak.co.uk/
Your insurance might specify a brick-built garage.
All cars are female unless it is a Bentley.
Tennis is rubbish.
Wooden garages look lovely: http://www.primeoak.co.uk/
Your insurance might specify a brick-built garage.
LongLiveTazio said:
Some things to consider:
All cars are female unless it is a Bentley.
Tennis is rubbish.
Wooden garages look lovely: http://www.primeoak.co.uk/
Your insurance might specify a brick-built garage.
Thanks LLT, primeoak look v interesting. I've sent for a brochure.All cars are female unless it is a Bentley.
Tennis is rubbish.
Wooden garages look lovely: http://www.primeoak.co.uk/
Your insurance might specify a brick-built garage.
I disagree with the genderising being quite so specific...
Once drove a shagged-out Hyundai dis-courtesy car that must have been a temper-tantrum male child
and a Countach 5000S which was the very b
h that all the press would rave about (6lbs in sweat lost, ace car) and a Countach Anniversary which was the same colour but also a quite refined lady - 'levels' of ladylikeness obviously apply!
and a just-rebuilt Aston DB2-4 that sounded exactly like I imagine a Sargeant Major with tonsilitis would
and owned a Toyota Celica that gave the lie to the idea of a Toyota Celica being a reliable car, silly-stroppy old biffer she was
and a Honda Prelude that just refused to break down, ever - just a tough ol' love
and an Accord that had to be vandalised badly before it had to be put down... smashed to billy-o by some proto-chavs and yet it still started and was able to be driven on to the scrappies trailer, the woe, the woe - she was a dear old semi-retired Geisha, I reckon and deserved better - we used to poke fun and say that she didn't pull well past 90mph... bless
and my Lambo is named after a certain famous frog, who's apparenty quite male but with frogs, who ever would know for sure?
Once drove a shagged-out Hyundai dis-courtesy car that must have been a temper-tantrum male child
and a Countach 5000S which was the very b
h that all the press would rave about (6lbs in sweat lost, ace car) and a Countach Anniversary which was the same colour but also a quite refined lady - 'levels' of ladylikeness obviously apply!and a just-rebuilt Aston DB2-4 that sounded exactly like I imagine a Sargeant Major with tonsilitis would
and owned a Toyota Celica that gave the lie to the idea of a Toyota Celica being a reliable car, silly-stroppy old biffer she was
and a Honda Prelude that just refused to break down, ever - just a tough ol' love
and an Accord that had to be vandalised badly before it had to be put down... smashed to billy-o by some proto-chavs and yet it still started and was able to be driven on to the scrappies trailer, the woe, the woe - she was a dear old semi-retired Geisha, I reckon and deserved better - we used to poke fun and say that she didn't pull well past 90mph... bless
and my Lambo is named after a certain famous frog, who's apparenty quite male but with frogs, who ever would know for sure?
Edited by XXVIII on Friday 14th March 21:26
SpeedEm,
do you foresee issues with Planning Permission? Could you not put in for planning, construct a nice triple garage with say your boys chill out area above, linked to the house, and while the builder is building you it get him to break out the existing tennis court and seed.turf it? It may be more expensive, but should add more vlaue to your property, as it may add a bedroom and on suite?
I appreciate I do not know your current house plan/garden etc so this may be useless information..
Good luck.
do you foresee issues with Planning Permission? Could you not put in for planning, construct a nice triple garage with say your boys chill out area above, linked to the house, and while the builder is building you it get him to break out the existing tennis court and seed.turf it? It may be more expensive, but should add more vlaue to your property, as it may add a bedroom and on suite?
I appreciate I do not know your current house plan/garden etc so this may be useless information..
Good luck.
I'd have planning restrictions which is why I'm going down the wooden route and it's also got to be a single storey. Also unable to link to the house due to driveway getting in the way.
Thanks
Andy
Thanks
Andy
Adam T said:
SpeedEm,
do you foresee issues with Planning Permission? Could you not put in for planning, construct a nice triple garage with say your boys chill out area above, linked to the house, and while the builder is building you it get him to break out the existing tennis court and seed.turf it? It may be more expensive, but should add more vlaue to your property, as it may add a bedroom and on suite?
I appreciate I do not know your current house plan/garden etc so this may be useless information..
Good luck.
do you foresee issues with Planning Permission? Could you not put in for planning, construct a nice triple garage with say your boys chill out area above, linked to the house, and while the builder is building you it get him to break out the existing tennis court and seed.turf it? It may be more expensive, but should add more vlaue to your property, as it may add a bedroom and on suite?
I appreciate I do not know your current house plan/garden etc so this may be useless information..
Good luck.
Having exactly the same issue at the moment been in my house for 4 years and am trying for planning on the house so am going for permitted development under 4m as well.
I am using
http://www.kingsland.uk.com/products.asp?prodcat_i...
Mine is similar to the one in the top right photo but with four bays and doors
I have gone for a 12m x 6m four bay garage but with three sets of doors ( 2.4m doors) the fourth with a window for the paint store ( if you know what I mean!!!) I have gone for a slate roof as on the low roof angle 27.5 degrees to get 6m with a ridge height of 4m concrete tiles leak.
Mine is a fully hipped with a log store, I looked at loads and loads Passmores,Broad oak etc etc basically most of the ones in the back of classic car mag
Been working on the plans for this for 3 years so if you have any questions ask away
Costs roughly
Base 5k
Roof 7k
Garage 17k ( including erection)
About 30k ish + Vat
I am using
http://www.kingsland.uk.com/products.asp?prodcat_i...
Mine is similar to the one in the top right photo but with four bays and doors
I have gone for a 12m x 6m four bay garage but with three sets of doors ( 2.4m doors) the fourth with a window for the paint store ( if you know what I mean!!!) I have gone for a slate roof as on the low roof angle 27.5 degrees to get 6m with a ridge height of 4m concrete tiles leak.
Mine is a fully hipped with a log store, I looked at loads and loads Passmores,Broad oak etc etc basically most of the ones in the back of classic car mag
Been working on the plans for this for 3 years so if you have any questions ask away
Costs roughly
Base 5k
Roof 7k
Garage 17k ( including erection)
About 30k ish + Vat
Edited by phib on Monday 17th March 08:19
Edited by phib on Monday 17th March 08:26
pictures?
phib said:
Having exactly the same issue at the moment been in my house for 4 years and am trying for planning on the house so am going for permitted development under 4m as well.
I am using
http://www.kingsland.uk.com/products.asp?prodcat_i...
Mine is similar to the one in the top right photo but with four bays and doors
I have gone for a 12m x 6m four bay garage but with three sets of doors ( 2.4m doors) the fourth with a window for the paint store ( if you know what I mean!!!) I have gone for a slate roof as on the low roof angle 27.5 degrees to get 6m with a ridge height of 4m concrete tiles leak.
Mine is a fully hipped with a log store, I looked at loads and loads Passmores,Broad oak etc etc basically most of the ones in the back of classic car mag
Been working on the plans for this for 3 years so if you have any questions ask away
Costs roughly
Base 5k
Roof 7k
Garage 17k ( including erection)
About 30k ish + Vat
I am using
http://www.kingsland.uk.com/products.asp?prodcat_i...
Mine is similar to the one in the top right photo but with four bays and doors
I have gone for a 12m x 6m four bay garage but with three sets of doors ( 2.4m doors) the fourth with a window for the paint store ( if you know what I mean!!!) I have gone for a slate roof as on the low roof angle 27.5 degrees to get 6m with a ridge height of 4m concrete tiles leak.
Mine is a fully hipped with a log store, I looked at loads and loads Passmores,Broad oak etc etc basically most of the ones in the back of classic car mag
Been working on the plans for this for 3 years so if you have any questions ask away
Costs roughly
Base 5k
Roof 7k
Garage 17k ( including erection)
About 30k ish + Vat
Edited by phib on Monday 17th March 08:19
Edited by phib on Monday 17th March 08:26
Planning Permission is a complitated affair...it is specific to where you live, proximity to buildings and roads etc.
Wooden buildings are not exempt from Planning. Some garages fall within permitted development rights, but only the smallest....something as large as a triple garage will probably require planning.
If you want anymore information drop me a line.
Jon
Architectural Technician
Wooden buildings are not exempt from Planning. Some garages fall within permitted development rights, but only the smallest....something as large as a triple garage will probably require planning.
If you want anymore information drop me a line.
Jon
Architectural Technician
Thats what I heard too from someone who built a 4 car garage.
Andy
phib said:
Jon, I thought so long as it was more than 5m from house, more than 1m from boundary and less that 4m in height no nearer the road than the house etc etc it was ok ?
Am I wrong ? or more importantly is my architect wrong !!!!
Am I wrong ? or more importantly is my architect wrong !!!!
phib said:
Jon, I thought so long as it was more than 5m from house, more than 1m from boundary and less that 4m in height no nearer the road than the house etc etc it was ok ?
Am I wrong ? or more importantly is my architect wrong !!!!
Am I wrong ? or more importantly is my architect wrong !!!!
speed_EM said:
Thats what I heard too from someone who built a 4 car garage.
Andy
It is a very complicated subject - but as a general rule - yes - you and your Architectype are correct... >5m from the existing house no closer to the road than the existing house, or <20m from the road, which ever is the greatest and <4m ridge height (3m if flat roof)Andy
phib said:
Jon, I thought so long as it was more than 5m from house, more than 1m from boundary and less that 4m in height no nearer the road than the house etc etc it was ok ?
Am I wrong ? or more importantly is my architect wrong !!!!
Am I wrong ? or more importantly is my architect wrong !!!!
Adam T said:
SpeedEm,
do you foresee issues with Planning Permission? Could you not put in for planning, construct a nice triple garage with say your boys chill out area above, linked to the house, and while the builder is building you it get him to break out the existing tennis court and seed.turf it? It may be more expensive, but should add more vlaue to your property, as it may add a bedroom and on suite?
I appreciate I do not know your current house plan/garden etc so this may be useless information..
Good luck.
But if he was doing that... Surely leaving the tennis court in when the extension was built would add value to the house?do you foresee issues with Planning Permission? Could you not put in for planning, construct a nice triple garage with say your boys chill out area above, linked to the house, and while the builder is building you it get him to break out the existing tennis court and seed.turf it? It may be more expensive, but should add more vlaue to your property, as it may add a bedroom and on suite?
I appreciate I do not know your current house plan/garden etc so this may be useless information..
Good luck.
I was under the impression was that he wasn't in a position to extend the house, and so was hoping to build on top of the tennis court?
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