Bridgestone Potenza
Bridgestone Potenza
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John.T.

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152 posts

226 months

Monday 17th March 2008
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I've just managed to replace the front tyres on my Chimmy, it had Bridgestone Potenza S02 on it when i bought it, loved them, the grip is fantastic wet or dry.

Contacted my tyre man and he couldn't find any for it, neither could e-bay yeild. I contacted EVENT tyres http://www.event-tyres.co.uk/ and they were fantastic, rang around and found me a pair. They arrived with a mobile fitting van this morning and sorted it out. Very professional job at a good price, well impressed.
Happy me with Bridgestone Potenza S02 / Dunlop SP9000 combo woo hoo.

PurpleV8

137 posts

247 months

Monday 17th March 2008
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Just double check that you have S02 "Pole Position" tyres fitted. As I understand it S02 and S03 Pole Position tyres have been out of production for quite a while now. There are various other versions of the S02 (N2 etc) intended for use on Porkers and the like that are not compatible with a TVR! This is due to the different rubber compound and side wall thickness used. Others have reported very poor handling with this type of tyre.

tvrbob

11,197 posts

286 months

Monday 17th March 2008
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Bad new I'm afraid.

Unfortunately you have most likely bought SO2's rather than SO2pp. The SO2 compound is much harder making them skittish in the wet. They also have stiffer walls which alter the stability of the car when cornering hard.

I ended up with a set of these a few years back. I gave them a couple of thousand miles and then gave up and cut my losses for a fantastic set of Toyo T1's

John.T.

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152 posts

226 months

Tuesday 18th March 2008
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Bad news for you sadly... They ARE 'Pole Position' and i checked them before i jacked the car up this morning.

I shall scrub them in a bit tomorrow.

Thanks for the advice though guys.

tvrbob

11,197 posts

286 months

Tuesday 18th March 2008
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My understanding is:

Production of SO2pp ceased in 2001 with the introduction of the SO3pp. TVR dealers spotted this and stockpiled what they could get their hands on. The dealer supply network sold out sometime in 2003. Bridgestone have not produced any SO2pp's since 2001.

If they are pp's then they have been on the shelf for 7 years, If they were stored properly that shouldn't be a problem.

You are a lucky chap.

Most owners of the Chim/Griff chassis have learned that there are better tyres than SO2pp's out there. Given a choice between SO2pp's and Toyo T1R's I'd choose the Toyo's every time because they have a more progressive lateral grip allowing better control in the event of oversteer

Timja

1,955 posts

240 months

Tuesday 18th March 2008
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Can you get Toyos with the correct speed rating though?

tvrbob

11,197 posts

286 months

Tuesday 18th March 2008
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Timja said:
Can you get Toyos with the correct speed rating though?
I have 16" wheels all round so in my case yes. I don't know what they have in 15"

Rum Runner

2,349 posts

248 months

Wednesday 19th March 2008
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Yep they must be of a age .

John.T.

Original Poster:

152 posts

226 months

Thursday 20th March 2008
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I checked the condition of tyres prior to fitting and there were no signs of perishing, cracking or having being left in the sun.

The stickers were bright, tyres looked hot off the press with the release agent still feeling slippy. I suspect they were carefully stored.
I'm impressed with them, the car is rock steady in the wet, so long as the front sticks better than the rear i'm happy.

ms89028

87 posts

297 months

Thursday 20th March 2008
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I have the standard wheels so need 205/55ZR15 on front and 225/50ZR16 on the back. I see the Toyos only come in a V rating on the R15 and a W on the R16. Shouldn't be an issue as I'm not planning on driving at 150MPH.

Are the Toyos what everyone is recommending now that the Bridgestones are unavailable ?

I've got a '97 Chimeara 400

tvrbob

11,197 posts

286 months

Thursday 20th March 2008
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ms89028 said:
I have the standard wheels so need 205/55ZR15 on front and 225/50ZR16 on the back. I see the Toyos only come in a V rating on the R15 and a W on the R16. Shouldn't be an issue as I'm not planning on driving at 150MPH.
As for the rating you should let your insurance company know that you need to down grade and if they permit it you need to ask for a letter of dispensation from them so that they can't deny it later. No point risking it because tyres are part of the standard list of things they check in the event of an accident.

PurpleV8

137 posts

247 months

Thursday 20th March 2008
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Dunlop SP9000's are available as ZR rated in the correct size

Pupp

13,011 posts

303 months

Friday 21st March 2008
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tvrbob said:
ms89028 said:
I have the standard wheels so need 205/55ZR15 on front and 225/50ZR16 on the back. I see the Toyos only come in a V rating on the R15 and a W on the R16. Shouldn't be an issue as I'm not planning on driving at 150MPH.
As for the rating you should let your insurance company know that you need to down grade and if they permit it you need to ask for a letter of dispensation from them so that they can't deny it later. No point risking it because tyres are part of the standard list of things they check in the event of an accident.
And unless your accident occurs at a speed above the rated tyre limit (in which case you're probably not in a position to worry too much), and tyre failure is a causal factor, it's irrelevant.

tvrbob

11,197 posts

286 months

Friday 21st March 2008
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Pupp said:
tvrbob said:
As for the rating you should let your insurance company know that you need to down grade and if they permit it you need to ask for a letter of dispensation from them so that they can't deny it later. No point risking it because tyres are part of the standard list of things they check in the event of an accident.
And unless your accident occurs at a speed above the rated tyre limit (in which case you're probably not in a position to worry too much), and tyre failure is a causal factor, it's irrelevant.
confused who told you that? Looking at the posts on here insurers will void the cover if an under-rated tyre is fitted, it has nothing to do with speed


Edited by tvrbob on Friday 21st March 08:45

ray_von

3,060 posts

283 months

Friday 21st March 2008
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Got to agree with Bob here yikes. I spoke to my insurers about this and they said no chance. Fit the correctly rated tyres if you can't get a letter from your insurer.

John.T.

Original Poster:

152 posts

226 months

Saturday 22nd March 2008
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The correct spec tyres MUST be fitted or the insurance MAY be void!!

Dunlop 9000 are absolute pants.! I have them on the back and they are soooo unpredicatable. Would'nt have them again.

anonymous-user

85 months

Saturday 22nd March 2008
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This is one thing that is worrying me about future ownership of my Chimaera.

I believe only Dunflops are offering the correct speed rated tyre and I thought they were discontinued aswell?

I have a few years life left in my front tyres but what then? Will I have to fork out on new front wheels or a set of wheels, which I don't want to do as I want to keep the car original?

Has anyone (such as the TVRCC) contacted Bridgestone to see about doing a limited run of SO3PPs?

It seems that the only thing is having wrongly rated tyres, with potential insurance issues, two new 16" fronts (which maybe difficult to get hold of), or a new set of wheels (and I must admit, I don't think aftermarket wheels suit the Chim).

It could be a problem within the next few years when people cannot replace their tyres with correctly rates ones.

DJ JULES

156 posts

236 months

Sunday 23rd March 2008
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I have just had a new set of bridgestone so2 put on mine, perry Mott can still get hold of them, 07957872615 hope this helps
jules

tvrbob

11,197 posts

286 months

Sunday 23rd March 2008
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DJ JULES said:
I have just had a new set of bridgestone so2
Lots of places can get SO2's. It's SO2pp's that are no longer available. You fit SO2's at your peril, they are awful.

VictorMeldrew

8,293 posts

308 months

Sunday 23rd March 2008
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John.T. said:
The correct spec tyres MUST be fitted or the insurance MAY be void!!

Dunlop 9000 are absolute pants.! I have them on the back and they are soooo unpredicatable. Would'nt have them again.
Er, my 500 came with S02's, which haven't been available for some time. Should I be declaring this to the insurance company come renewal?

(PP's obviously)

Edited by VictorMeldrew on Sunday 23 March 11:43