Can anyone help?
Can anyone help?
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Hormone

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823 posts

267 months

Thursday 20th March 2008
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I have a misfire problem with my 400SE.
No ordinary misfire this one!

She ticks over fine. If I apply the throttle gently she will run through the rev range sweetly but if I boot it she misfires between 2500 & 3000 revs. Once you get the 3200 revs she picks up and the misfire dissappears.

The misfire is through the inlet, you can clearly hear it in the plenum.

The things we have eliminated so far (mainly through exchanging with known working parts) are as follows:-

Ignition -
Plugs, leads, dizzie & cap, coil,throttle sensor,airmeter/ hotwire unit, ECU, ignition amplifier, temp sensor, stepper motor, timing

Fuel -
Pump (fuel pressure fine & increases when you blip the loud pedal), fuel relays, injectors

Currently we have run out of ideas.
Surely this can only be a fuel/ignition issue but this only occurs when you put your foot down, in other conditions the running is unaffected.

We have thought about valve spring or oil pressure to a follower but again this would be evident all the time.

Has any one had this problem or has an idea where to go next?

Beer tokens at the Wedgefest if you can help.

Brian

Edited by Hormone on Thursday 20th March 12:18

cuneus

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Thursday 20th March 2008
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dickymint

29,109 posts

288 months

Thursday 20th March 2008
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Is this whilst stationary or when driving or both? You seem to have covered most things eh. Have you checked for air leaks? Swapped the resistor pack? Maybe She just needs the base idle and throttle pot adjusted from scratch.

rev-erend

21,623 posts

314 months

Thursday 20th March 2008
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Brain,

As Dicky says - it would be wise to check the throttle pot voltage at idle is correct and the afm voltage too.

Also check any wires for frays and brakages - the LT wires to the coil and cables to the ignition powerpack are famous for this. Also check the injector earth at the back of the engine block.

After that - I would check the timing and the exhaust gas reading (co, nox, hc etc).

Hormone

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823 posts

267 months

Thursday 20th March 2008
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dickymint said:
Is this whilst stationary or when driving or both? You seem to have covered most things eh. Have you checked for air leaks? Swapped the resistor pack? Maybe She just needs the base idle and throttle pot adjusted from scratch.
Hi Dicky
It does it stationary as well as on the move.

Bu55ered if I know what it is.

Hope you are ok & the job is still good.

Brian

Hormone

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Thursday 20th March 2008
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rev-erend said:
Brain,

As Dicky says - it would be wise to check the throttle pot voltage at idle is correct and the afm voltage too.

Also check any wires for frays and brakages - the LT wires to the coil and cables to the ignition powerpack are famous for this. Also check the injector earth at the back of the engine block.

After that - I would check the timing and the exhaust gas reading (co, nox, hc etc).
Haven't checked the gasses but tried the rest.

Thanks Alan

Hormone

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Thursday 20th March 2008
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cuneus said:
Thanks I will wade through when I go a mo.

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

272 months

Thursday 20th March 2008
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Sounds like a cam lobe to me.

Usually the rear ones go first. Disconnect one or other rear injectors (try the driver's side one first) and go for a drive. Your power will be down but if the problem goes away then that's a strong pointer.

Next step will be to take the rocker cover off and see if the valve is lifting OK on the corresponding cylinder.

rev-erend

21,623 posts

314 months

Thursday 20th March 2008
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An alternative method it to check the temp with a digital temp lazer guage on the exhaust headers..

leorest

2,346 posts

269 months

Thursday 20th March 2008
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rev-erend said:
An alternative method it to check the temp with a digital temp lazer guage on the exhaust headers..
Maplin are selling these cheap at the moment.

Hormone

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823 posts

267 months

Friday 21st March 2008
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Thanks guys. I will let you know how I get on.

Brian

rev-erend

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Friday 21st March 2008
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leorest said:
rev-erend said:
An alternative method it to check the temp with a digital temp lazer guage on the exhaust headers..
Maplin are selling these cheap at the moment.
Thanks - always wanted one.. but cannot find it one their web site.

Can we have a link and price !

jmorgan

36,010 posts

314 months

Friday 21st March 2008
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Second the throttle pot setting check. Cured a load of ills with me.

PS Temp gauge measure thingy, I got mine from maplins. Infrared thermometer I think it comes under?

cuneus

5,963 posts

272 months

Friday 21st March 2008
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rev-erend said:
leorest said:
rev-erend said:
An alternative method it to check the temp with a digital temp lazer guage on the exhaust headers..
Maplin are selling these cheap at the moment.
Thanks - always wanted one.. but cannot find it one their web site.

Can we have a link and price !
http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=46033&doy=21m3

£50

Edited by cuneus on Friday 21st March 23:22

cuneus

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dickymint

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Friday 21st March 2008
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cuneus said:
rev-erend said:
leorest said:
rev-erend said:
An alternative method it to check the temp with a digital temp lazer guage on the exhaust headers..
Maplin are selling these cheap at the moment.
Thanks - always wanted one.. but cannot find it one their web site.

Can we have a link and price !
http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=46033&doy=21m3

£50

Edited by cuneus on Friday 21st March 23:22
£50 yikes Got mine as one of me leaving presents from LG. Strangely enough it had to be calibrated the week we shut the factory hehe

rev-erend

21,623 posts

314 months

Saturday 22nd March 2008
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cuneus said:
Thanks - just ordered one smile

TVRleigh_BBWR

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243 months

Sunday 23rd March 2008
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cuneus said:
rev-erend said:
leorest said:
rev-erend said:
An alternative method it to check the temp with a digital temp lazer guage on the exhaust headers..
Maplin are selling these cheap at the moment.
Thanks - always wanted one.. but cannot find it one their web site.

Can we have a link and price !
http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=46033&doy=21m3

£50

Edited by cuneus on Friday 21st March 23:22
I'm sure they do one for less than £20 also.

Hormone

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Monday 24th March 2008
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Bump tongue out

dickymint

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Monday 24th March 2008
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Hormone said:
Bump tongue out
More info - come on talk us through it.