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Having difficulty in deciding between purchasing a TVR Tuscan or Monaro.
Have driven both and TVR has better acceleration but I am concerned about reliability.
As I no longer have a lengthy commute fuel costs are irrelevant but I do not want to end up with an unreliable car.
Does anyone have 0-100 figure for standard and supercharged Monaro?
Greens Vauxhall have a VXR500 for sale at £29995 but this seems a bit expensive even taking into account the fact that not many VXR500s were made. Can anyone suggest what a VXR500 is likely to be worth?
All advice gratefully received.
Have driven both and TVR has better acceleration but I am concerned about reliability.
As I no longer have a lengthy commute fuel costs are irrelevant but I do not want to end up with an unreliable car.
Does anyone have 0-100 figure for standard and supercharged Monaro?
Greens Vauxhall have a VXR500 for sale at £29995 but this seems a bit expensive even taking into account the fact that not many VXR500s were made. Can anyone suggest what a VXR500 is likely to be worth?
All advice gratefully received.
I think most here will say monaro
imo when i first got mine it had the wortec performance pac on it but i was not impressed with the performance but i brought mine knowing i was going to supercharge it and booked it into monkfish the same day, it goes pretty well now and im sure it will be reliable.
Ive always been a fan of TVR's but heard and seen to many horror storys to take the plunge myself.
imo when i first got mine it had the wortec performance pac on it but i was not impressed with the performance but i brought mine knowing i was going to supercharge it and booked it into monkfish the same day, it goes pretty well now and im sure it will be reliable.Ive always been a fan of TVR's but heard and seen to many horror storys to take the plunge myself.
My previous car was a 600bhp supra that would wipe the floor with my supercharged monaro, speedo vid of the supra
http://media.putfile.com/GT4088-top-speed-run
http://media.putfile.com/GT4088-top-speed-run
I have owned TVRs for 7 years up until the point of buying the Monaro, on buying the Monaro I PX a 4.5 Cerbera so I feel well placed in answering your question.
Well Stigy was right on the money, there is no way that you can compare the two cars side by side. The TVR is a sports car, and the Monaro is a GT coupe.
My time with the TVR was very enjoyable, but deep pockets are required to keep it in tip top condition, in another post I quoted a full service on the TVR at £1,200 and the Monaro £250. Over and above that the TVR also cost £1+ for every mile covered in repairs and renewals. So far I have done approx 10,000 miles in the Monaro and only one item has had to be replaced, an idler bearing on the drive belt.
I would have bought another TVR but as they don't exist anymore, the purchase of one leaves you out there on your own should anything go wrong (and they do). Where as Vauxhall cover their products for 3 years!
Price for the 500 well if you like it buy it! it is not that far out, if it is too rich for your blood then there are some very good non S/C models out there with some good tuning companies on here that will build one to your own spec.
Well Stigy was right on the money, there is no way that you can compare the two cars side by side. The TVR is a sports car, and the Monaro is a GT coupe.
My time with the TVR was very enjoyable, but deep pockets are required to keep it in tip top condition, in another post I quoted a full service on the TVR at £1,200 and the Monaro £250. Over and above that the TVR also cost £1+ for every mile covered in repairs and renewals. So far I have done approx 10,000 miles in the Monaro and only one item has had to be replaced, an idler bearing on the drive belt.
I would have bought another TVR but as they don't exist anymore, the purchase of one leaves you out there on your own should anything go wrong (and they do). Where as Vauxhall cover their products for 3 years!
Price for the 500 well if you like it buy it! it is not that far out, if it is too rich for your blood then there are some very good non S/C models out there with some good tuning companies on here that will build one to your own spec.
The 500 might turnout to be a bit of a 'collectors item' purely for rarity value. But if you are looking for a close to 500 BHP car at 18 months old with the balance of 18 months manufacturers warranty plus that one at Greens has AP's wortec exhaust and road response pack adding up to around £5,250.00 if you went out to fit them today and make into the car it should have been from the factory. Add an s/c at £5-6k and you would need to pick up a standard 06 VXR for under £20k. Certainly worth having a quick demo in it and it's in the fastest colour.
Charlie
(Black VXR 500 with all the bits on)
Charlie
(Black VXR 500 with all the bits on)
jamiep said:
My previous car was a 600bhp supra that would wipe the floor with my supercharged monaro, speedo vid of the supra
http://media.putfile.com/GT4088-top-speed-run
congrats, whats the boasting about? You ended up with the ro for a reason, http://media.putfile.com/GT4088-top-speed-run
As for comparing to a TVR, wtf. They could not be any more different. May as well be comparing a fat lass to a skinny lass for the use of it.
slackalice said:
I have owned TVRs for 7 years up until the point of buying the Monaro, on buying the Monaro I PX a 4.5 Cerbera so I feel well placed in answering your question.
Well Stigy was right on the money, there is no way that you can compare the two cars side by side. The TVR is a sports car, and the Monaro is a GT coupe.
My time with the TVR was very enjoyable, but deep pockets are required to keep it in tip top condition, in another post I quoted a full service on the TVR at £1,200 and the Monaro £250. Over and above that the TVR also cost £1+ for every mile covered in repairs and renewals. So far I have done approx 10,000 miles in the Monaro and only one item has had to be replaced, an idler bearing on the drive belt.
I would have bought another TVR but as they don't exist anymore, the purchase of one leaves you out there on your own should anything go wrong (and they do). Where as Vauxhall cover their products for 3 years!
Price for the 500 well if you like it buy it! it is not that far out, if it is too rich for your blood then there are some very good non S/C models out there with some good tuning companies on here that will build one to your own spec.
Well Stigy was right on the money, there is no way that you can compare the two cars side by side. The TVR is a sports car, and the Monaro is a GT coupe.
My time with the TVR was very enjoyable, but deep pockets are required to keep it in tip top condition, in another post I quoted a full service on the TVR at £1,200 and the Monaro £250. Over and above that the TVR also cost £1+ for every mile covered in repairs and renewals. So far I have done approx 10,000 miles in the Monaro and only one item has had to be replaced, an idler bearing on the drive belt.
I would have bought another TVR but as they don't exist anymore, the purchase of one leaves you out there on your own should anything go wrong (and they do). Where as Vauxhall cover their products for 3 years!
Price for the 500 well if you like it buy it! it is not that far out, if it is too rich for your blood then there are some very good non S/C models out there with some good tuning companies on here that will build one to your own spec.
I've been toying with the idea of a Monaro *if* move on from the Cerbera.
Anyone else got experience of the two?
jmn said:
Having difficulty in deciding between purchasing a TVR Tuscan or Monaro.....
central said:
I've been toying with the idea of a Monaro *if* move on from the Cerbera.
Anyone else got experience of the two?
Not actually a reason for the change, but a comforting by-product if you like, is the better reliability most owners would get from the Monaro. I've taken TVRs to Le Mans, but I wasn't comfortable enough to take them on a 2000+ mile roadtrip around Europe with the family aboard. This is something we've done a couple of times with the 'ro, and it's a great cruiser on A roads and motorways.
The downside...it's a bit woolly compared to TVRs. It's quite a big, heavy car, and if I'm ragging it I never feel quite as in touch with things as I did in the Cerb which was much more go-kart like.
One thing that has always amazed me about the 'ro, is the amount of attention it gets on the roads. It's a rare sight, and people seem to either get excited because of what they've seen on TG, or stare because they can't work out what it is!
So, 2 good looking, powerful V8s (well straight 6 if you go for the Tuscan), but very different beasts. Wish I could afford one of each!
jmn...if you don't need the rear seats, then how about a Corvette instead of a TVR, that's something I would consider...
Let us know how you get on guys.
Edited by rocket on Saturday 22 March 02:18
Having owned both TVR's and now a monaro I agree with all the comments posted. There is one other aspect to be considered though.
I use my monaro every day and it always works fine. My TVR (which I also bought new) spent more time being fixed than working. Service prices are much cheaper on monaros. All round the monaro is a production line build quality made car, where TVR's are hand built and are often poor quality.
I would say monaro every time!
I use my monaro every day and it always works fine. My TVR (which I also bought new) spent more time being fixed than working. Service prices are much cheaper on monaros. All round the monaro is a production line build quality made car, where TVR's are hand built and are often poor quality.
I would say monaro every time!
stigmundfreud said:
jamiep said:
My previous car was a 600bhp supra that would wipe the floor with my supercharged monaro, speedo vid of the supra
http://media.putfile.com/GT4088-top-speed-run
congrats, whats the boasting about? You ended up with the ro for a reason, http://media.putfile.com/GT4088-top-speed-run
As for comparing to a TVR, wtf. They could not be any more different. May as well be comparing a fat lass to a skinny lass for the use of it.
Edited by jamiep on Saturday 22 March 08:58
If you're going after a tuscan then some serious research is required.
For example, you *must* go for a model 52 plate or later or one that has been rebuilt at the factory. The pre-52 engines had a huge problem with the finger followers (amounst other things) causing the engine to fail in cloud of smoke. The later engines are better but still not bomb proof. Need to remember that the rumour is TVR screwed the engine designer by taking asking for the speed 6 and then changing it sufficiently that they didn't pay him. This is the touted as the main reason the engine being a disaster zone. There's plenty of specialists still around who can make thsese engines work as they should but you'll need to figure it into the running costs of the car.
I'd advise against any of the more exoctic paints as although they look great if you need a respray then you're looking at many thousands.
TVR's are great fun cars and like many handbuilt british sports cars have to be a love/hate relationship.
Things *will* go wrong, bits will fall off and it will most likely leak in bad weather. That being said its a storming car that'll turns heads and make you smile.
Deep pockets are essential though.
For example, you *must* go for a model 52 plate or later or one that has been rebuilt at the factory. The pre-52 engines had a huge problem with the finger followers (amounst other things) causing the engine to fail in cloud of smoke. The later engines are better but still not bomb proof. Need to remember that the rumour is TVR screwed the engine designer by taking asking for the speed 6 and then changing it sufficiently that they didn't pay him. This is the touted as the main reason the engine being a disaster zone. There's plenty of specialists still around who can make thsese engines work as they should but you'll need to figure it into the running costs of the car.
I'd advise against any of the more exoctic paints as although they look great if you need a respray then you're looking at many thousands.
TVR's are great fun cars and like many handbuilt british sports cars have to be a love/hate relationship.
Things *will* go wrong, bits will fall off and it will most likely leak in bad weather. That being said its a storming car that'll turns heads and make you smile.
Deep pockets are essential though.
From Auto car road tests 0 to 30/60/100:
LC 2.4/5.1/11.1
04 CV8 2.4/5.7/13.3
05 VXR 2.3/5.3/12.6
07 VXR8 2.2/5.4/13.2
Sorry can't find an independently measured time for a VXR500. I guess you must be looking at 11 seconds to 100.
Auto Car compared one to a Shelby GT500 on 25/10/06 but didn't publish any figures.
LC 2.4/5.1/11.1
04 CV8 2.4/5.7/13.3
05 VXR 2.3/5.3/12.6
07 VXR8 2.2/5.4/13.2
Sorry can't find an independently measured time for a VXR500. I guess you must be looking at 11 seconds to 100.
Auto Car compared one to a Shelby GT500 on 25/10/06 but didn't publish any figures.
rocket said:
I had a Cerb before the Monaro, and I'll echo slackalice's thoughts above. I loved the Cerb to bits. It's a beautiful, raw, sportscar. In the end I changed to the Monaro for the extra room in the back for my ever growing sons.
Quick question - Would the front passenger seat be accesable for my mum, who's a stroke victim?(My Cerb is too low)
central said:
rocket said:
I had a Cerb before the Monaro, and I'll echo slackalice's thoughts above. I loved the Cerb to bits. It's a beautiful, raw, sportscar. In the end I changed to the Monaro for the extra room in the back for my ever growing sons.
Quick question - Would the front passenger seat be accesable for my mum, who's a stroke victim?(My Cerb is too low)
central said:
rocket said:
I had a Cerb before the Monaro, and I'll echo slackalice's thoughts above. I loved the Cerb to bits. It's a beautiful, raw, sportscar. In the end I changed to the Monaro for the extra room in the back for my ever growing sons.
Quick question - Would the front passenger seat be accesable for my mum, who's a stroke victim?(My Cerb is too low)
central said:
rocket said:
I had a Cerb before the Monaro, and I'll echo slackalice's thoughts above. I loved the Cerb to bits. It's a beautiful, raw, sportscar. In the end I changed to the Monaro for the extra room in the back for my ever growing sons.
Quick question - Would the front passenger seat be accessible for my mum, who's a stroke victim?(My Cerb is too low)
As has already been mentioned, the doors open wide.
Also something to consider is the fully adjustable seats which can be raised and lowered as required.
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