Making someone clean up outside there house
Making someone clean up outside there house
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Hobo

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6,648 posts

276 months

Sunday 23rd March 2008
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We are coming to the end of a development & obviously as such are wanting the surrounding area to look as good as possible to help sales.

There are approx. 10 houses surrounding our development all apart from one are extremely clean & presentable. However the one which is not has a pile of building materials outside on the street (unadopted road) including 1/2 pack of blocks, some sand & a couple of plastic barriers around it. Overall its about 2m x 2m however the guy is not actually doing any building works & openly says its just there so that no-one can park there. Its been there to my knowledge approx. 12 months.

Now, I understand that on his deeds it does say he owns up to the centre of the road (on his side), however we own the other. In other words if I parked normally on the side of the road I 'own' opposite this mess it would block the road off completely. I understand that regardless of ownership, right of way must be allowed & as such want this cr@p moved. Is there a legal way of anonymously doing this as I don't really want to do it through my company for obvious reasons (the effects it may have).

As mentioned, the road is currently unadopted if this effects things.

jamesuk28

2,176 posts

283 months

Sunday 23rd March 2008
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Why don't you just say to the bloke its a fecking eye sore and can he shift it please, you might be suprised by the reaction.

Sneeking around behind peoples back's usually ends in tears.

Sam_68

9,939 posts

275 months

Sunday 23rd March 2008
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Check the detail wording of the deeds.

If the road is unadopted, it would normal for all parties who share it to be granted unobstructed rights of access across it at all times. If he is piling building materials on it, he is obstructing the access, simple as that...

The way we would normally do it when conveying a new house is to tint the area of shared vehicular access blue on the transfer plan, then make reference to it in the title document.

If your property is one of several who share rights of access across the road, then the rights and obligations described on your property's title are likely to be the same as your neighbour's.

Hobo

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6,648 posts

276 months

Sunday 23rd March 2008
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The reason I don't want to be so 'upfront' is that if he wanted to he could make sales of my development hard if he wanted to, as such I would rather a 3rd party make him act.

Holst

2,468 posts

251 months

Sunday 23rd March 2008
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Hobo said:
The reason I don't want to be so 'upfront' is that if he wanted to he could make sales of my development hard if he wanted to, as such I would rather a 3rd party make him act.
Cant you just go round and offer to clear the stuff for free..

Trying to force him to move the stuff seems like the wrong way to go about it IMO.

jamesuk28

2,176 posts

283 months

Sunday 23rd March 2008
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Speaking from experience, if someone approached me with a reasonable request, clearly explaining Why they would like something doing I would if at all possible help.

If that same person's first approach was heavy handed and threatening they would get a very large shock. I don't think it will take the neighbour that long to work out who grassed him up, and I would assume he will want a bit of pay back. This is how things get way out of hand, and turn into a full blown war.

If you really want to go down "move it or else" route I would speak to a Solicitor to see what your options are. Might be worth boarding up your windows as a precaution though.

JustinP1

13,363 posts

260 months

Sunday 23rd March 2008
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Holst said:
Hobo said:
The reason I don't want to be so 'upfront' is that if he wanted to he could make sales of my development hard if he wanted to, as such I would rather a 3rd party make him act.
Cant you just go round and offer to clear the stuff for free..

Trying to force him to move the stuff seems like the wrong way to go about it IMO.
I would say that is the best way forward.

He would have to be a bit of an arse to be funny about it then.

Alternatively, if someone were to injure themselves on this pile of stuff, it would be interesting to see whether his home public liability insurance would cover it....
Food for thought...

Deva Link

26,934 posts

275 months

Sunday 23rd March 2008
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JustinP1 said:
Alternatively, if someone were to injure themselves on this pile of stuff, it would be interesting to see whether his home public liability insurance would cover it....
Food for thought...
Assuming he has insurance at all, then it will cover him for the part of the road that he owns.


Maybe a solution would be to ask some passing travelling people to move it for you (when owner is out, obviously).

Hobo

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6,648 posts

276 months

Sunday 23rd March 2008
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The bloke in question is a 1st class pr!ck. He does it on purpose.

I've had skips there for the last 10 weeks & have mentioned he could use them, but he isn't interested.
As said, he's only done it so no-one else can park outside his house.

Scraggles

7,619 posts

254 months

Sunday 23rd March 2008
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put the crap into the skip when he not around and remove skip ?

jamesuk28

2,176 posts

283 months

Sunday 23rd March 2008
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Scraggles said:
put the crap into the skip when he not around and remove skip ?
Technically theft

Scraggles

7,619 posts

254 months

Monday 24th March 2008
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technically he is creating an obstruction but guess the plod would not care

Egbert Nobacon

2,835 posts

273 months

Monday 24th March 2008
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If all else fails why not offer him a monthly amount to keep it clear it whilst you sell your property/ies.

Once you've sold them he can put it back if he wants ......

Edited by Egbert Nobacon on Monday 24th March 19:05

srebbe64

13,021 posts

267 months

Monday 24th March 2008
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If you're the current owner of several properties and you fall out with a neighbour then you will probably have to disclose that to the buyers - it's a standard legal question nowadays. As such, best to keep the relationship as cordial as possible I reckon.

voyds9

8,490 posts

313 months

Monday 24th March 2008
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Hire a JCB and park it on top of his building material.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

228 months

Tuesday 25th March 2008
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tell some pikeys where there are some free building materials smile

job done!

just make sure all of your stuff is secure before inviting them round!!

sgrimshaw

7,587 posts

280 months

Tuesday 25th March 2008
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Block your side of the road so he can't get in or out as appropriate.

Also, I didn't think Privately owned roads got "adopted".


GPSS

694 posts

241 months

Tuesday 25th March 2008
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I put my house up for sale some time ago, unfortunately the local housing association had bought a house four doors up from me and put scum in there, as they do. With the resulting long grass in the gardens, dirty windows, bags of rubbish etc. This I believe made my house less desirable to a potentail buyer, and there fore was costing me approximately £10,000 in lost value to my property. If you complain to any officail or to the person themselves, when you fill out the questionaire asking you if you have had any disputes with your neighbours, then you have to say yes, further putting buyers of your property.


Edited by Hughesie on Wednesday 26th March 08:36

srebbe64

13,021 posts

267 months

Tuesday 25th March 2008
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What I can't understand is why anyone would put a pile of crap outside their house to prevent people parking. Surely (1) He can't park there himself; and (2) A pile of crap 24 hours a day looks worse than the occasional vehicle a few hours a week. Some people really are stupid aren't they!!!

Edited by srebbe64 on Tuesday 25th March 23:16

Hobo

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6,648 posts

276 months

Wednesday 26th March 2008
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srebbe64 said:
Some people really are stupid aren't they!!!
Yes