BMW 530d - Swirl Flaps inside Manifold
BMW 530d - Swirl Flaps inside Manifold
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Bill Lee

Original Poster:

3 posts

222 months

Friday 28th March 2008
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I own a 530d se 53 re about 70,000 miles.
Bought from origional owner 12months ago, but no extended warranty.
Marvelous car, awsome acceleration, 36.5 mpg from new.
Full BMW Service
On Easter Sat the Swirl Flaps dropped into the manifold and my local dealership has diognosed a NEW engine required at a cost of £ 12,500.
They have applied to Customer Service for a "Good will" grant.
Are you able to advise if this has happened on other cars, and how much help am I likely to get from BMW. The trade valure of the car is £ 13,000.00
Thank you
Bill L

Vee

3,109 posts

263 months

Friday 28th March 2008
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Bad luck but its a common problem on this engine.
I think you might find more information on www.bmwland.co.uk

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

227 months

Friday 28th March 2008
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Bill Lee said:
I own a 530d se 53 re about 70,000 miles.
Bought from origional owner 12months ago, but no extended warranty.
Marvelous car, awsome acceleration, 36.5 mpg from new.
Full BMW Service
On Easter Sat the Swirl Flaps dropped into the manifold and my local dealership has diognosed a NEW engine required at a cost of £ 12,500.
They have applied to Customer Service for a "Good will" grant.
Are you able to advise if this has happened on other cars, and how much help am I likely to get from BMW. The trade valure of the car is £ 13,000.00
Thank you
Bill L
Ouch.... clearly with FBMWSH you have got a good leg to stand on.

However their offer of £13k for a new engine is nonsensical as youd simply scrap yours and buy a different one if that were the worst case end scenario.

crolandc

290 posts

225 months

Friday 28th March 2008
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Dealer friend of mine had an 02reg 525d with fbmwsh and about 70,000mls,it swallowed one at startup
and wrecked engine!Bmw payed for parts under goodwill and he payed labour,that was about 2 months ago.
Hopes this cheers you up!
Cliff.

Bill Lee

Original Poster:

3 posts

222 months

Friday 28th March 2008
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THANKS FOR EARLY RESPONSE.
CUSTOMER SERVICES HAVE PROMISED A RESPONSE ON MONDAY.
I WILL KEEP MY FINGERS CROSSED AND WILL POST DEVELOPEMENTS.
THANKS AGAIN. BILL LEE

MattOz

4,020 posts

293 months

Friday 28th March 2008
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Bill,

Contrary to the previous posters comments, it's not a common problem. It is an issue for some unlucky owners, but I'd wager that the problem has affected a very very small proportion of 3.0d units. I did have the same thing happen to me back in 2004 and it resulted in a piston, new head, 24 valves and lots of BMW labour, all covered under warranty.

Good luck with your claim.

Matt

E30M3SE

8,493 posts

225 months

Friday 28th March 2008
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Sorry to hear of your woes, but this is a fairly well known issue with 320d's see BMW land

http://www.bmwland.co.uk/talker/viewtopic.php?t=53...

A friend has a 2004 330d when his car went in for it's first service 15kish the inlet manifold was changed as a BMW warranty item, no official recall though.

Vee

3,109 posts

263 months

Friday 28th March 2008
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MattOz said:
Contrary to the previous posters comments, it's not a common problem. It is an issue for some unlucky owners, but I'd wager that the problem has affected a very very small proportion of 3.0d units. I did have the same thing happen to me back in 2004 and it resulted in a piston, new head, 24 valves and lots of BMW labour, all covered under warranty.
So all the owners are imagining it ?
This and turbo failure are the most frequent problems on BMW diesels.

emaps

10 posts

234 months

Saturday 29th March 2008
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With FSH and evidence on various forums that this is a known problem I wouldnt except anything less than a 100% contribution from BMW.

Methane Bloke

264 posts

231 months

Monday 31st March 2008
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I wonder just how common this problem is? BMW make more 2.0 litre diesel engines than any other in their current range and we hear on the forums of how many failures, a hundred? Percentage wise, out of a production of around a million units that's not significant (statistically). The problem was highlighted on the earlier 136BHP engine and measures to improve the situation introduced. The problem also seems effect lesser numbers of the six cylinder diesel models.

Now we all probably know someone who has been effected by this issue but you always hear of the problems and not from the other 99.99% who have not been effected.

BTW I've had five BMW diesels and been lucky I guess or is it just down to those percentages?

Regards

Chris

dxb335d

2,905 posts

224 months

Monday 31st March 2008
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MattOz said:
Bill,

Contrary to the previous posters comments, it's not a common problem. It is an issue for some unlucky owners, but I'd wager that the problem has affected a very very small proportion of 3.0d units. I did have the same thing happen to me back in 2004 and it resulted in a piston, new head, 24 valves and lots of BMW labour, all covered under warranty.

Good luck with your claim.

Matt
could it happen to the latest generation x35d engines etc? or has the problem been rectified now?

MattOz

4,020 posts

293 months

Monday 31st March 2008
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dxb335d said:
could it happen to the latest generation x35d engines etc? or has the problem been rectified now?
Carl,

I'd imagine that BMW had sorted it with the latest gen engines. I've not heard of a *35d unit being affected.

Cheers
Matt

jamoor

14,506 posts

244 months

Monday 31st March 2008
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is there any preventative maintanace you can do to prevent this?

crolandc

290 posts

225 months

Monday 31st March 2008
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Hi methane bloke,
Chris, i know what you mean mate but i would imagine that bmw would be over the moon if 100 out of
a million had these problems,i think it will be considerably more but if it was 1000 that is still
pretty good odds i suppose, mine is a 320d (2003)and i might go for the flap extraction simply
because of the catastrophic damage that MAY happen!!
Cliff.

Neil.D

2,878 posts

235 months

Monday 31st March 2008
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BMW updated the swirl flaps in 2005. I dont know if its cured but take a look on http://www.realoem.com/bmw/ to see if you have the old or new one.