V8 overhaul advice
V8 overhaul advice
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Barkychoc

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7,848 posts

235 months

Saturday 29th March 2008
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I've been reading the info on the RPI website about V8 engines, and the 14 bolts in the cylinder head being an issue and that it is much better to fit just the 10 main head bolts.
Anyway I'm rebuilding my V8S and had decided to strip the engine to do this while its all in bits (and also to try and stem the oil slick leaking out of the sump).

Today I took the exhaust manifolds off - and was surprised to see that it already has only 10 head bolts fitted.
Is this standard from new on a TVR fiddled with V8?
I can't now decide whether to take the heads off or not - the engine runs really well though I still intend to have the cam out to check it. It has done 66000 miles, and RPI said with 60000 miles plus and 14 bolts the head gasket will begin to leak - but if I have 10 bolts already does that mean I needn't worry.

Here's the RPI link if you want to have a read ---> http://www.rpiv8.com/engine-4.htm#gaskets

Cost is a factor here - I don't have a bottomless pit of cash to throw at it.

All advice appreciated.

Chris

dwgriffith

436 posts

252 months

Saturday 29th March 2008
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If it's running OK leave it alone. Do something more useful with the money.

griffter

4,143 posts

286 months

Saturday 29th March 2008
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My '92 Griff had 14 bolts in the 14 bolt heads. The 10 bolt heads were only produced from 94 or 96 or something - way after the last of the V8S were made. Seems like your heads have been swapped at some time in the past.

Barkychoc

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7,848 posts

235 months

Saturday 29th March 2008
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Sorry maybe I wasn't very clear - I have 14 bolts heads but only the 10 bolts are fitted.
From the bit sticking out the side it seems the head gaskets are composite aswell not tin.

Edited by Barkychoc on Saturday 29th March 16:23

dwgriffith

436 posts

252 months

Saturday 29th March 2008
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They've been off already then.

350Matt

3,912 posts

310 months

Saturday 29th March 2008
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You might want to CC the heads while they're off as the composite gaskets are a superior part but they are thicker so will drop the compression ratio and therefore power.

However if whoever did the work knew what they were doing (and the 10 bolts used implies that they did) then the heads will have been skimmed to compensate.

Matt

Tahiti450

712 posts

268 months

Sunday 30th March 2008
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350Matt said:
You might want to CC the heads while they're off as the composite gaskets are a superior part but they are thicker so will drop the compression ratio and therefore power.

However if whoever did the work knew what they were doing (and the 10 bolts used implies that they did) then the heads will have been skimmed to compensate.

Matt
Do you know if it is fitted with composite gaskets, wouldnt necessarily be so.

GreenV8S

31,027 posts

315 months

Sunday 30th March 2008
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350Matt said:
However if whoever did the work knew what they were doing (and the 10 bolts used implies that they did) then the heads will have been skimmed to compensate.
It wouldn't be that unusual to exchange the heads if they needed servicing, perhaps the originals have been upgraded to 28cc ones.

Barkychoc

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7,848 posts

235 months

Sunday 30th March 2008
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I think they are composite gaskets as there's a little bit sticking out the side - it seems to be a grey covered metal gasket. Is this the construction of a composite gasket?

Tahiti450

712 posts

268 months

Tuesday 1st April 2008
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Barkychoc said:
I think they are composite gaskets as there's a little bit sticking out the side - it seems to be a grey covered metal gasket. Is this the construction of a composite gasket?
Sounds likely that they are composite then, the shim gaskets are simply wafer thin steel sheet (beer-can gauge). The composite gaskets are about 1.5mm thick when compressed (hence the increase in combustion chamber volume and reduction in CR when these are fitted as opposed to the shim type). The composite gasket is of traditional construction with a sheet of presumably metal reinforced gasket material with sheet metal shielding over the sealing faces and flame ring areas.

Edited by Tahiti450 on Tuesday 1st April 00:05

Barkychoc

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7,848 posts

235 months

Tuesday 1st April 2008
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Well thanks guys for all the info.
I'm going to work on the basis its working well so don't censored with it.

I'll still check the cam and regasket the timing cover and sump etc to stem the Exxon Valdez effect.

Chris