125 between cbt and das?
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Now I wasnt going to bother, I was thinking just do the cbt and then the das course ( im probably looking to do the course over a couple of weeks rather than the one week full time)
I've not checked the time between being able to book the das and test but as the cbt is over a month im expecting it to be a month or so..
So do you think its worth the hastle of buying, insuring and then selling a 125 in order to get a bit of practice for a couple of months( not to mention making it more difficult to explain that I only want the licence im not really thinking of buying a bike :hehe)
especially as the riding i'd be doing would be uninstructed, where as the das is all instructed.
Over to the floor
Cheers
G
I've not checked the time between being able to book the das and test but as the cbt is over a month im expecting it to be a month or so..
So do you think its worth the hastle of buying, insuring and then selling a 125 in order to get a bit of practice for a couple of months( not to mention making it more difficult to explain that I only want the licence im not really thinking of buying a bike :hehe)
especially as the riding i'd be doing would be uninstructed, where as the das is all instructed.
Over to the floor
Cheers
G
Graham said:
Now I wasnt going to bother, I was thinking just do the cbt and then the das course ( im probably looking to do the course over a couple of weeks rather than the one week full time)
I've not checked the time between being able to book the das and test but as the cbt is over a month im expecting it to be a month or so..
So do you think its worth the hastle of buying, insuring and then selling a 125 in order to get a bit of practice for a couple of months( not to mention making it more difficult to explain that I only want the licence im not really thinking of buying a bike :hehe)
especially as the riding i'd be doing would be uninstructed, where as the das is all instructed.
Over to the floor
Cheers
G
Well I did my CBT last year, bought a 125 & it's great to get a better feel & more confidence for riding, will do my DAS in a few months time, but am sure I'll be better for doing it. I've not checked the time between being able to book the das and test but as the cbt is over a month im expecting it to be a month or so..
So do you think its worth the hastle of buying, insuring and then selling a 125 in order to get a bit of practice for a couple of months( not to mention making it more difficult to explain that I only want the licence im not really thinking of buying a bike :hehe)
especially as the riding i'd be doing would be uninstructed, where as the das is all instructed.
Over to the floor
Cheers
G
Buying was quite easy, found one local at 10am had it home by 12. Resale on 125's is not much of problem, you'll probably get back close to what you paid, if you buy one a couple of years old. Insurance, after cars is bit of a laugh!
I'd recommend doing it.
Graham said:
SplatSpeed said:
rent one
can you do that on L=plates? where would you do it from your instructor? as you do for the cbt and the das?my current plan is
CBT
DAS
Buy Bike
Take more training !!!
Edited by Graham on Thursday 3rd April 10:35
You can't go wrong with a CG125 for scooting around after passing your CBT. I did that for 3 months to get decent experience whilst studying for my theory and it enabled me to pass the DAS with no problems.
Paid £1,400 for my CG and got £1,300 back so it was well worth it from my perspective (did about 500 miles on £25 petrol). Not sure what the excess is on a hired bike but I would be in a better state of mind riding my own bike as I know how it's been treated and would not want to have an excess hanging over my head when riding. My insurance for 3rd party f&f was £180 which was ok.
Paid £1,400 for my CG and got £1,300 back so it was well worth it from my perspective (did about 500 miles on £25 petrol). Not sure what the excess is on a hired bike but I would be in a better state of mind riding my own bike as I know how it's been treated and would not want to have an excess hanging over my head when riding. My insurance for 3rd party f&f was £180 which was ok.
amare32 said:
You can't go wrong with a CG125 for scooting around after passing your CBT. I did that for 3 months to get decent experience whilst studying for my theory and it enabled me to pass the DAS with no problems.
Paid £1,400 for my CG and got £1,300 back so it was well worth it from my perspective (did about 500 miles on £25 petrol). Not sure what the excess is on a hired bike but I would be in a better state of mind riding my own bike as I know how it's been treated and would not want to have an excess hanging over my head when riding. My insurance for 3rd party f&f was £180 which was ok.
Well this is my logic too, except I've got a CBR125 & my insurance is about half yours (benefit of being an old fart!). A neighbour has already said they'll take the bike off me for £100 less than I paid for it. So all in all I thought buying was the better route. Paid £1,400 for my CG and got £1,300 back so it was well worth it from my perspective (did about 500 miles on £25 petrol). Not sure what the excess is on a hired bike but I would be in a better state of mind riding my own bike as I know how it's been treated and would not want to have an excess hanging over my head when riding. My insurance for 3rd party f&f was £180 which was ok.
I did the same, bought a 125 varadero last year for £1500, sold it a few weeks ago for £1450 when i passed my test, £50 is not bad for nearly a years riding, plus the experience of riding over the last put me in really good stead for the test from a confidence point of view. Bear in mind though that the new test rules come in force in october which will make a bit harder to get through
Hmmm, this might be a case of "ignorance is bliss" but I don't intend to get a 125cc and practice in between my CBT/DAS.
I am concerned that I might develop bad habits that will take time to iron out. To be honest, I'd rather get some extra tuition leading upto or after the DAS course if necessary; getting more experience with a bigger bike might be better before the test?
I am concerned that I might develop bad habits that will take time to iron out. To be honest, I'd rather get some extra tuition leading upto or after the DAS course if necessary; getting more experience with a bigger bike might be better before the test?
Having not ridden between CBT and DAS, then cocking up the DAS, I'd say buy a cheap 125.
You won't need to spend much as the OP's have said - buy carefully and you might even make a profit.
I bought a 125 and practised by myself after the DAS, then put in for my test independently and passed a few months later. The time and 2 - 3000 miles on a 125 really gave me the confidence and skills I needed. Definitely worth it.
Look at it this way: even if you lose £100 overall on the 125, that £100 won't buy even a day's instruction. You'll have had much better value out of it than a day with an instructor would give you. In terms of actual 'learning', I learned more on the CBT and practising myself than I did on the DAS, which was mostly just repetition of what we'd already covered. You could just as easily do this on your own. That was my experience, anyway...
You won't need to spend much as the OP's have said - buy carefully and you might even make a profit.
I bought a 125 and practised by myself after the DAS, then put in for my test independently and passed a few months later. The time and 2 - 3000 miles on a 125 really gave me the confidence and skills I needed. Definitely worth it.
Look at it this way: even if you lose £100 overall on the 125, that £100 won't buy even a day's instruction. You'll have had much better value out of it than a day with an instructor would give you. In terms of actual 'learning', I learned more on the CBT and practising myself than I did on the DAS, which was mostly just repetition of what we'd already covered. You could just as easily do this on your own. That was my experience, anyway...
Indeed. Nothing beats time on the road. It's essential to be comfortable with manueovering (forgot how to spell!)and handling any bike to pass a test. Those basic elements do not change from one bike to another. It is often the case that (slightly) more capacity/power is easier to ride BUT that alone does not make it a requirement to pass a test. Of course if you fit the rules where you need to take a test on de-restricted bike then you need to adapt to that for test. Adapting to a bigger bike ain't hard once the basics are ingrained into the "good practice" mind set. -provided of course you watch the old twistgrip !!
Good luck come what may.
Good luck come what may.
I did it. Bought a Cagiva Mito (derestricted 
) for £1300 and sold it 7 months later for £1550 I think it was worthwhile, as I only needed 2 x 3 hour sessions then an hour before my test. The profit on the bike pretty much covered it too. It certainly helped me as the Mito was an awkward little beggar and initially took some mastering for someone who'd only ever done CBT with no other bike experience. Before long it all clicked into place and riding the Kwak ER5 DAS bike was a piece of p*ss in comparison.
) for £1300 and sold it 7 months later for £1550 I think it was worthwhile, as I only needed 2 x 3 hour sessions then an hour before my test. The profit on the bike pretty much covered it too. It certainly helped me as the Mito was an awkward little beggar and initially took some mastering for someone who'd only ever done CBT with no other bike experience. Before long it all clicked into place and riding the Kwak ER5 DAS bike was a piece of p*ss in comparison.Sossige said:
Hmmm, this might be a case of "ignorance is bliss" but I don't intend to get a 125cc and practice in between my CBT/DAS.
I am concerned that I might develop bad habits that will take time to iron out. To be honest, I'd rather get some extra tuition leading upto or after the DAS course if necessary; getting more experience with a bigger bike might be better before the test?
its not so much the practising that did it for me. it was shear time on a bike. i needed to ride for a week or so everyday before it didnt feel totally alien. until then i couldnt concentrate on what i should be doing for the test.I am concerned that I might develop bad habits that will take time to iron out. To be honest, I'd rather get some extra tuition leading upto or after the DAS course if necessary; getting more experience with a bigger bike might be better before the test?
id say its worth it & the market for 125s is always good so you wont loose much on it - with the added bonus buyers like older owners as it wont have been trashed around town every evening.
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