A couple of dyno figures
A couple of dyno figures
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Busamav

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239 months

Thursday 3rd April 2008
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Just for pondering like , and keyboard racing lol

A tuner (DSD ) just posted on the 200mph site , very impressive from the Blade .

2008 fireblade with that really trick exhaust 169bhp

KTM RC8 wow so sexy 145bhp

hayabusa 2008 180bhp




randlemarcus

13,646 posts

262 months

Thursday 3rd April 2008
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Oooh, top trumps!

MV Agusta F4 1078 CC - 200BHP

Busamav

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239 months

Thursday 3rd April 2008
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randlemarcus said:
Oooh, top trumps!

MV Agusta F4 1078 CC - 200BHP
Thats had some serious engine works for sure .

Be interested in some more info on it .

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

262 months

Thursday 3rd April 2008
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Busamav said:
randlemarcus said:
Oooh, top trumps!

MV Agusta F4 1078 CC - 200BHP
Thats had some serious engine works for sure .

Be interested in some more info on it .
Not too much twiddling - the stock 1078 makes 190.

http://mvagusta.com/_vti_g2_ver.aspx?IdVer=118&amp...

Price difference between stock and the CC is about 25K though - it is, to be fair, quite a limited edition.

Busamav

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239 months

Thursday 3rd April 2008
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Be very interested to see what it really makes at the wheel on an indepndent dyno .

190 surely must be a figment of somebodys marketing imagination or dream.

Edited by Busamav on Thursday 3rd April 22:39

Steve_T

6,356 posts

303 months

Friday 4th April 2008
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Busamav said:
Be very interested to see what it really makes at the wheel on an indepndent dyno .

190 surely must be a figment of somebodys marketing imagination or dream.

Edited by Busamav on Thursday 3rd April 22:39
What rpm is 190bhp made at? - if it were 12k that would suggest 83lbft of torque, which is a good peak torque for a 1L bike, never mind torque at peak power. Extra capacity would only add a few lbft, so I'm with 'mav on this one, it sounds high - you're in race motor territory there!

trumpet600

3,527 posts

262 months

Friday 4th April 2008
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Got my TZR250 race bike booked in for the dyno tomorrow. I only bought the bike a week before my first race at Donny, so didn't have any opportunity to do any groundwork.

Based on how some of the bikes sped past me, I need to do a fair bit to the engine. I'm guessing it will register a paltry 45-50bhp. A bit different from my 150bhp track R1!!!


randlemarcus

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262 months

Friday 4th April 2008
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Steve_T said:
Busamav said:
Be very interested to see what it really makes at the wheel on an indepndent dyno .

190 surely must be a figment of somebodys marketing imagination or dream.

Edited by Busamav on Thursday 3rd April 22:39
What rpm is 190bhp made at? - if it were 12k that would suggest 83lbft of torque, which is a good peak torque for a 1L bike, never mind torque at peak power. Extra capacity would only add a few lbft, so I'm with 'mav on this one, it sounds high - you're in race motor territory there!
No dyno curves out there that I can see yet. Specs say peak power at 12200 rpm, and peak torque 124Nm at 8200 rpm, which is roughly 91 lb/ft. More than willing to buy one, run it in, and dyno it, just for the curiousity of the masses - donations to itwasworthago@hotmail.com...hehe

Busamav

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239 months

Friday 4th April 2008
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trumpet600 said:
Got my TZR250 race bike booked in for the dyno tomorrow. I only bought the bike a week before my first race at Donny, so didn't have any opportunity to do any groundwork.

Based on how some of the bikes sped past me, I need to do a fair bit to the engine. I'm guessing it will register a paltry 45-50bhp. A bit different from my 150bhp track R1!!!
Binterested to see the dyno sheet of a race 250 smile.

That paltry 45 -50 bhp will sound very good as it rides round the outside of most of us smile

fergus

6,430 posts

306 months

Friday 4th April 2008
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Busamav said:
Binterested to see the dyno sheet of a race 250 smile.

That paltry 45 -50 bhp will sound very good as it rides round the outside of most of us smile
try around 130hp....

trumpet600

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262 months

Friday 4th April 2008
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fergus said:
Busamav said:
Binterested to see the dyno sheet of a race 250 smile.

That paltry 45 -50 bhp will sound very good as it rides round the outside of most of us smile
try around 130hp....
Not sure what the race bred TZ's used to produce, but the TZR's are limited to a maximum of 59 bhp in the YPM's.

As for riding round the outside of you, not with my fat arse on it!

fergus

6,430 posts

306 months

Friday 4th April 2008
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Sorry, I thought you meant the top flight 250 GP bikes!

Steve_T

6,356 posts

303 months

Friday 4th April 2008
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fergus said:
Busamav said:
Binterested to see the dyno sheet of a race 250 smile.

That paltry 45 -50 bhp will sound very good as it rides round the outside of most of us smile
try around 130hp....
yikes

trumpet600

3,527 posts

262 months

Friday 4th April 2008
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fergus said:
Sorry, I thought you meant the top flight 250 GP bikes!
I bloody wish....

trumpet600

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262 months

Monday 7th April 2008
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Well, dyno testing was interesting on Saturday.

First run as raced at Donnington produced 41hp. It did have a slipping clutch which pee'd me off big time coming out of the old hairpin. After changing all the plates, the second run showed 43.5, and yes the .5 is important.

We changed the pipes for aftermarket and gained another 1.5hp, which in its self isn't much, but the smoothness of the curve would make a hell of a lot of difference on the track.

To put things in perspective, a bike from the same series was tested after mine and was knocking out 56hp. The same bike that will probably lap me at Snetterton this weekend!!

Back to the drawing board (or Bob Farnham's)

Steve_T

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303 months

Monday 7th April 2008
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Was the air filter up to scratch and did anyone do any gas analysis on the dyno run?

trumpet600

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262 months

Monday 7th April 2008
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I did notice that the filter could do with being replaced. As for gas analysis, I had curry the night before if that helps.



Excuse the ignorance, what would the gas analysis show?

Edited by trumpet600 on Monday 7th April 10:06

Steve_T

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303 months

Monday 7th April 2008
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trumpet600 said:
I did notice that the filter could do with being replaced. As for gas analysis, I had curry the night before if that helps.


biggrin

I meant what was the mixture like - too lean, overly rich? Both of these will reduce the power you make.

Edited by Steve_T on Monday 7th April 10:12

trumpet600

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262 months

Monday 7th April 2008
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Note to self - check plugs for mixture

mitzy

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228 months

Monday 7th April 2008
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trumpet600 said:
Note to self - check plugs for mixture
Or get your pit girl to do it for you biggrin