X-Type 3.0 V6 - any good?
X-Type 3.0 V6 - any good?
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robodonkey2005

Original Poster:

311 posts

228 months

Monday 7th April 2008
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Toying with the following options for next car (in 3 months or so):
Alfa GTA, Audi A4 3.0, X-Type 3.0, BMW 530

Just wondering if the X-Type is any good? It seems to sell itself based on price anyway! Cheap as chips smile

FWDRacer

3,565 posts

246 months

Monday 7th April 2008
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Avoid listening to the X-Type Naysayers as in the majority of cases thev've only got their misinformed information from a car bore in a pub. The 3.0L X-Type is a very dependable car with great steering. Good to drive (especially in Sport spec), just a tad thirsty and they aren't quite as sharp as a cvomparable BMW dynamically (Think 330i etc). Try driving both over 5hrs on a long journey and you'd take the Jag everytime.

I speak from perrsonal experience.

Good Luck with your purchase - a great used car secret so don't go telling everyone... hehe

robodonkey2005

Original Poster:

311 posts

228 months

Monday 7th April 2008
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Your secret is safe wink Any ideas if the All Wheel Drive system is worth seeking out?

Triple7

4,015 posts

259 months

Monday 7th April 2008
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Rob, I too had an X-Type, I have to say for the money it was the most satisfying car I have owned. It drives so well, great handling. Make sure you get a manual 3.0ltr Sport car. All 2.5/3.0ltr cars have all wheel drive as standard.

See here:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

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Mattmeister

781 posts

229 months

Monday 7th April 2008
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awd is standard on the 3.0....





eta: doh! too slow

Edited by Mattmeister on Monday 7th April 15:03

robodonkey2005

Original Poster:

311 posts

228 months

Monday 7th April 2008
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And not a bad looking car either....MMmmm looks like it's worth a test drive smile
Thanks folks...

qube_TA

8,405 posts

267 months

Monday 7th April 2008
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I had a 2.5 with Indianapolis trim for a few months, thought it was great, no idea why some people whinge about them.


Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

232 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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qube_TA said:
I had a 2.5 with Indianapolis trim for a few months, thought it was great, no idea why some people whinge about them.
There's no doubt it's a very good car - given it's shared platform with the Mondeo, which was one of the most highly developed and praised cars in recent years - it would be surprising if it were anything but.

I think I can shed some light on why people whinge about them though.

Let's be honest, probrably the biggest reason most people buy prestige cars is to show off their wealth and status. No flaming please, I'm counting myself just as guilty as the rest here.

Undenabily the X Type is an almost direct copy of the current XJ - just park the two together and apart from the difference in size you'll see they share almost identical styling cues. Same angled rear lights, same twin exhaust pipes, same haunch over the rear wheels, same fluted bonnet, chrome grille, and twin headlights. In so many ways with it's identical curves and proportions it's obviously intended, rather blatently IMO, to look inside and out exacty like a minature XJ.

That's a bonus of course for the X type owner, whose £25000 car is easily mistaken for a £45000 one, but really bad news for the XJ owner whose previously exclusve, uniquely styled £45000 car now has a almost identical cheaper £25000 brother.

Most people at a casual glance would not be able to tell the difference between the two. IMO this is what starts most of the whingers - including old farts like me - off about the X Type; it's the feeling that the XJ has somehow been cloned and cheapened by the X Type - the unique and iconic beauty of the XJ series developed over the last 40 years has gone weeping and the Jaguar brand is much the poorer for the loss of one of it's greatest assets.

FWDRacer

3,565 posts

246 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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Steve - Except your barge doesn't venture out of the garage if it snows...

I've travelled faster cross country in streaming wet and wintry conditions in an X-type than I ever dare in an XJ or S-Type. With AWD it really inspires that much confidence.

As for the noted comments on the styling any XJ owner should reassure himself with the following:

"Imitation is the most sincrere form of flattery" I think the saying goes... wink

qube_TA

8,405 posts

267 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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There's folk on here that have owned one and gotten rid due to them being hateful cars!

I don't thinks it's a status symbol issue, that's BMW's problem biggrin


Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

232 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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FWDRacer said:
Steve - Except your barge doesn't venture out of the garage if it snows...

I've travelled faster cross country in streaming wet and wintry conditions in an X-type than I ever dare in an XJ or S-Type. With AWD it really inspires that much confidence.

As for the noted comments on the styling any XJ owner should reassure himself with the following:

"Imitation is the most sincrere form of flattery" I think the saying goes... wink
'Kin right it doesn't - it takes too long to clean afterwards AND it's got Pirelli - fuuuuuukin 'ell, that was close yikes - tyres on it.

Yes, I'm sure you're right; cross country or in bad conditions the X type AWD is superb - that's what it's for, and as I said it's a bloody good car - probrably a more usefull and practical all round choice than the XJ.

Can't agree about the styling though.

It just looks a bit phoney and - well dishonest - to me - in a bit of a fake Rolex watch or Tiffany jewelery style over substance, you know it's not the real thing, kind of way. The XJ is such a hard, maybe impossible act to follow anything trying to imitate it is bound to attract criticism for that reason.


RLK500

917 posts

274 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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Interesting topic. What's the general consensus on residuals and current prices for x-types. I am contemplating a change and the 2.2d x-type is on the short list, the only fly in the ointment being the current Jag scenario with Tata.

Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

232 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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When Rover shut down and went into administration, residuials fell quite sharply and there were spares supply problems for a while.

One thing I have noticed is that Jaguar main dealers seem to be retailing more older cars, with higher mileages now than they were in the past, and that most of these cars are priced quite keenly when compared with independents and private sales. This could be a indication that they are working very hard to retain buisness and market share of second hand car sales, and coupled with the economic slowdown, might mean this is a very good time to secure a good deal.

FWDRacer

3,565 posts

246 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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qube_TA said:
There's folk on here that have owned one and gotten rid due to them being hateful cars
Thanks for your enlightened input. Ever sat in one?

As Jaguar Steve so eloquently expressed it, now is the time to pick up a solid car for an absolute mint.

If it wasn't for the mileage I cover each year - an AWD X-Type sport would be my car of choice (as it is a diesel is the order of the day - and when 2.2D's drop into my budget - guess what). The only image problem I see with an X-Type is that it expresses that you don't want to be seen in an Audi or BMW. Now somebody tell me that is a bad thing... winkhehe


RLK500

917 posts

274 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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Exactly, I am moving away from BMW. (Sick of their superior engineering tosh that is just smoke and mirrors).

Triple7

4,015 posts

259 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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RLK500 said:
Interesting topic. What's the general consensus on residuals and current prices for x-types. I am contemplating a change and the 2.2d x-type is on the short list, the only fly in the ointment being the current Jag scenario with Tata.
I am hoping that you won't see any more headlines about Jaguar/LR and TATA. Now the deal is done, the companies will just get on with making cars.

The only thing I would say about the X-Type is that it will be binned in 2010, that is when the residuals will be hardest hit, but that goes for any ex-model. (Naomi included wink )

Personally I decided I wouldn't spend more than £12k-£15k on an X-Type. The new facelifted cars, do look the biz mind you, I wonder what a dealer would say if you put in a silly offer on one?

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dominicf

108 posts

262 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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Given that the 2.5 and 3.0 AWD saloon is no longer available in the UK and when I went to my dealer last week all he had on his used forecourt were FWD diesels, I can see a possible rarity in the history of the X type, the late model low mileage 2.5 and 3.0 AWD saloons appreciating!!!!
I checked fleabay and autotrader there are single figure 2006 onwards AWD's saloons available. I've got a 2.5 sport 2006 midnight black 15k mileage full leather champagne, black dash, i'll bubblewrap it now smile

bobfrance

1,323 posts

289 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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Another vote for the X-Type.

I've driven one quite a bit (V6 manual).
They really do stick to the road like st to a blanket. Fair performance, not wallowy, good/positive gear change, decent steering and a very nice engine sound.

The one I drive doesn't do tons of miles, but it has never given a minutes trouble.

Triple7

4,015 posts

259 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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dominicf said:
Given that the 2.5 and 3.0 AWD saloon is no longer available in the UK
I forgot about that! Where's my autotrader!

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