Drugs in prison
Discussion
If you can explain how to save money by building the thousands of extra prison places and prison officers needed to put all imprisoned drug addicts into solitary confinment then you should sell that idea to the Home Office.
But bear in mind that any savings you make will need to be factored down by at least 95% to account for the efficiency of the public sector.
But bear in mind that any savings you make will need to be factored down by at least 95% to account for the efficiency of the public sector.
I once visited a prisoner in Ford Open prison, perhaps the laxest in the country (based on 'escapees') and I honestly cannot figure out how it gets in unless with the staff.
Thorough pat-down, sniffer dog walked around each person, all belongings into a locker, no physical contact, etc. etc.
All I can say is either the staff bring it in, or people are exceptionally good at lobbing stuff 150m into windows...
Thorough pat-down, sniffer dog walked around each person, all belongings into a locker, no physical contact, etc. etc.
All I can say is either the staff bring it in, or people are exceptionally good at lobbing stuff 150m into windows...
Visitors bring in very little into the higher security prisons.
In a Cat C/B visitors shouldn't be able to take in anything other than some change in their pockets, everything else is in a locker before getting to the visit room. Visitors are searched, then a sniffer dog up and down the line, long hair checked for packages etc. Any need for the toilet during this process and you have to go through the search and sniffer dog again.
Prisoners are searched before and after visits.
During the visit, prisoners cannot sit right next to visitors and there are guards patrolling and CCTV being monitored in real time.
Even cups with open lids are not allowed- hot drinks are served in plastic cups with lids and a small hole to drink through, preventing drugs being passed via drinks.
Drugs abuse happens through a few methods; people who know they're going to be sent down are supplied drugs on the morning of their court hearing, they stick them up their arse in a plastic bag and in they go into prison with them. It's not that often prisoners are cavity searched.
Prisoners who are on drug prescriptions sell their share on.
In closed prison, fruit containing drugs is thrown over the perimeter walls into exercise yards at pre-planned times and collected during exercise time.
In open prison, packages are left by perimeter walls for prisoners to collect and prisoners who are allowed out on day/ weekend release bring them back in with them.
In a Cat C/B visitors shouldn't be able to take in anything other than some change in their pockets, everything else is in a locker before getting to the visit room. Visitors are searched, then a sniffer dog up and down the line, long hair checked for packages etc. Any need for the toilet during this process and you have to go through the search and sniffer dog again.
Prisoners are searched before and after visits.
During the visit, prisoners cannot sit right next to visitors and there are guards patrolling and CCTV being monitored in real time.
Even cups with open lids are not allowed- hot drinks are served in plastic cups with lids and a small hole to drink through, preventing drugs being passed via drinks.
Drugs abuse happens through a few methods; people who know they're going to be sent down are supplied drugs on the morning of their court hearing, they stick them up their arse in a plastic bag and in they go into prison with them. It's not that often prisoners are cavity searched.
Prisoners who are on drug prescriptions sell their share on.
In closed prison, fruit containing drugs is thrown over the perimeter walls into exercise yards at pre-planned times and collected during exercise time.
In open prison, packages are left by perimeter walls for prisoners to collect and prisoners who are allowed out on day/ weekend release bring them back in with them.
10 Pence Short said:
Drugs abuse happens through a few methods; people who know they're going to be sent down are supplied drugs on the morning of their court hearing, they stick them up their arse in a plastic bag and in they go into prison with them. It's not that often prisoners are cavity searched.
Prisoners who are on drug prescriptions sell their share on.
In closed prison, fruit containing drugs is thrown over the perimeter walls into exercise yards at pre-planned times and collected during exercise time.
In open prison, packages are left by perimeter walls for prisoners to collect and prisoners who are allowed out on day/ weekend release bring them back in with them.
there must be a high percentage bought in by prison staff too?Prisoners who are on drug prescriptions sell their share on.
In closed prison, fruit containing drugs is thrown over the perimeter walls into exercise yards at pre-planned times and collected during exercise time.
In open prison, packages are left by perimeter walls for prisoners to collect and prisoners who are allowed out on day/ weekend release bring them back in with them.
MartG said:
BiggusLaddus said:
If you can explain how to save money by building the thousands of extra prison places and prison officers needed to put all imprisoned drug addicts into solitary confinment then you should sell that idea to the Home Office.
FiveStar said:
there must be a high percentage bought in by prison staff too?
I'm sure from time to time there are staff who do this, but when you consider you're looking at the loss of a good career and a long stretch yourself if you get caught, it's not that common as far as I'm concerned.Admittedly it was only over a period of 3 months, but I never heard it mentioned or alluded to once whilst I was inside, whereas the other were all well known and discussed methods.
The funniest one was in Wealstun Open, where a new inmate was going for his first drugs test. He didn't realise he'd be strip searched and by the time he got into the testing room and they asked him to take off his shoes, it was too late to do anything about the pot in one of them. Silly boy. Straight back to the Cat C next door.
There was very recently a case of an officer jailed for smuggling in drugs. Sadly it does happed from time to time caused by a variety of things from greed to debt to intimidation and threats against family or friends. There have even been cases of doing it for someone a member of staff has fallen for. But the usual methods are over prison walls and as 10p has said rectum smuggling however methods are being brought it to try reduce that with a new x-ray style chair.
FiveStar said:
10p short or anyone else - do you know what the drugs prices are like in prison?
Depends on what you want and how you can pay for it. For smaller stuff a lot of trading gets done, for the bigger stuff I'm not really familiar enough with how much people were paying.There was a lad busted in the open prison I was in, they found £300 cash in his room (you're not supposed to have ANY cash at all) and his debt list. As far as I'm aware he was mainly sorting pot and coke, but I don't know for how long that £300 was accumulated. I wouldn't think it was over too long a period of time.
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