Not wearing a seatbelt endorseable offence?
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Not happened to me but wonder if stopped by the BiB and found not to be wearing a seatbelt could you have your licence endorsed? Not are you likley to but could they if they wanted to endorse you 3 points for it? I thought it was a non endorseable offence but carried a fine
Anyone in the know able to offer their comments on this?
Anyone in the know able to offer their comments on this?
d_drinks said:
Not happened to me but wonder if stopped by the BiB and found not to be wearing a seatbelt could you have your licence endorsed? Not are you likley to but could they if they wanted to endorse you 3 points for it? I thought it was a non endorseable offence but carried a fine
Anyone in the know able to offer their comments on this?
Not endorsable.
The reason I asked was watching a program on Sky 1 last night (Road Wars or something like that 21:00-22:00) two traffic officers stopped a couple of lads driving a BMW coupe for not wearing their seatbelts (stupid I know etc. etc. ) One officer asked the driver if he had any points, the driver replied yes 7, the officers response was well you've now got 10, one offence away from being banned. In the end the chap was let away with a vehicle defect from (bald tyre) and a document producer form.
My point is how can an officer threaten somebody with something when they can not carry out the threat or the threat is clearly a lie said to intimidate the other person.
I found that officers comments very worrying and wonder how many times things like this are said to bully members of the public…..
My point is how can an officer threaten somebody with something when they can not carry out the threat or the threat is clearly a lie said to intimidate the other person.
I found that officers comments very worrying and wonder how many times things like this are said to bully members of the public…..
d_drinks said:
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My point is how can an officer threaten somebody with something when they can not carry out the threat or the threat is clearly a lie said to intimidate the other person.
I found that officers comments very worrying and wonder how many times things like this are said to bully members of the public…..
I was threatened with arrest for failing to produce documents. The insurance broker took his time in sending out the cover note, so it wasn't produced within 7 days. My solicitor was delighted to hear about this, as nothing I could possibly be charged with was an arrestable offence. Ended up going to the Police Complaints Authority, and BiB had to apologise.
You could ask to see P.A.C.E. Ask the officers exactly what they may charge you with and the posible outcomes of any case. Refer them to the section that is supposed to protect you from threatening behaviour. By definition, it has to be threatening behaviour if they have no authority to do so. Take their numbers, the Registration of the Car, their Sergents name, the Chief Police officers name and contact address. Then demand a copy of their notes of the incident as it is evidence of the crime that they have commited. As threatening behavior can carry a jail sentence, you are then with in your rights to carry out a citizens arrest so read them their rights. Then tell them that you believe that they may have been drinking or are under the influence of drugs as they have absolutely no idea what their job involves with regards driving offences.
of course - this may not work
of course - this may not work d_drinks said:
The reason I asked was watching a program on Sky 1 last night (Road Wars or something like that 21:00-22:00) two traffic officers stopped a couple of lads driving a BMW coupe for not wearing their seatbelts (stupid I know etc. etc. ) One officer asked the driver if he had any points, the driver replied yes 7, the officers response was well you've now got 10, one offence away from being banned. In the end the chap was let away with a vehicle defect from (bald tyre) and a document producer form.
I believe he got the 3 points for the bald tyre, not the seatbelt. I couldn't work it out either, until the (annoying) presenter pointed out the tyre was dangerously bald.
Why didn't the policeman make him put the spare on? Can't believe he let him drive off with a tyre that had the cords showing!
john_p said:
I believe he got the 3 points for the bald tyre, not the seatbelt. I couldn't work it out either, until the (annoying) presenter pointed out the tyre was dangerously bald.
Why didn't the policeman make him put the spare on? Can't believe he let him drive off with a tyre that had the cords showing!
Yes you are right he did the producer etc. in the end for the bald tyre (as you say that it was down to the canvas and that he was allowed to drive off was a bit strange
) However before they found the bald tyre one for the officers (not the one looking at the car) stated that the chappie in the car would get 3 points for not wearing a seatbelt, though this was not the case in the end it was the threat that worried me
The occupants of the car were being total muppets being obtuse to say the least, but still no excuse for threating someone one and counting on their lack of knowledge for tatics to work
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