How do you view drivers who use Camera detectors?
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To me, a device like that suggests they are repeat offenders of speeding, ultimately they wouldn't need one if they didn't speed. However there might be a few people who use them as a safe guard, just in case type thing. Especially motor-way drivers.
But then I'm not a copper.
Stefan
But then I'm not a copper.
Stefan
I personally would not treat him any differently at all.
I wouldnt have one in my car as i dont see the point, im a bit old fashioned and keep my eyes and ears peeled........after all, i drive a TVR with no electronic aids whatsoever so i wouldnt spend any money to put any gadgets in.
>> Edited by tonyrec on Wednesday 13th August 09:48
I wouldnt have one in my car as i dont see the point, im a bit old fashioned and keep my eyes and ears peeled........after all, i drive a TVR with no electronic aids whatsoever so i wouldnt spend any money to put any gadgets in.
>> Edited by tonyrec on Wednesday 13th August 09:48
I am not plod, but have used a road angel for some time, and have just bought my wife a cyclops due to her being scamed by a camera at 1 minute to midnight on an empty road whilst taking our youngest to hospital (in a newly lowered limit road) she drives a softroader and almost never speeds, but needs her car for her job so the cyclops is a safe guard to her livelyhood
I use a GPS based detector. We are told by the state that speed cameras are installed at places where there is a history of accidents. I would thereby expect that the state would treat my use of a detector as an attempt to have prior warning of an accident blackspot, i.e. a safety device.
I have two very simple answers as to why I use a Snooper.
1.) I have a tendancy to break speed limits.
No point in denying this. I bought it after a trip from London to Devon, travelling at 3am ( I don't like other people to use my roads
) I saw a camera at the last minute and had to dive from 90ish to 60ish. Now I get some warning.
2.) The other (slightly smart arsed) reason.
As we know speed cameras are only placed in Accident Blackspots. The reason these locations are blackspots is that there are hidden dangers that may not be obvious. Having a detector in the car, I am made aware of the presence of a "Hidden Danger"....
Which do you believe...
Answers on a post card to .....
1.) I have a tendancy to break speed limits.
No point in denying this. I bought it after a trip from London to Devon, travelling at 3am ( I don't like other people to use my roads
) I saw a camera at the last minute and had to dive from 90ish to 60ish. Now I get some warning. 2.) The other (slightly smart arsed) reason.
As we know speed cameras are only placed in Accident Blackspots. The reason these locations are blackspots is that there are hidden dangers that may not be obvious. Having a detector in the car, I am made aware of the presence of a "Hidden Danger"....
Which do you believe...
Answers on a post card to .....
My stance on this is pretty familiar - although I make a conscious distinction between those devices which passively detect and those which actively interfere. The latter covers Jammers/Diffusers etc.
To me Jammers and Diffusers are used to prevent us doing our job. If you have and use such devices, IMO you have something to hide and probably are a person more likely to speed than people who don't use diffusers/jammers.
I do not apply this to users of passive detection equipment...
Tivster
To me Jammers and Diffusers are used to prevent us doing our job. If you have and use such devices, IMO you have something to hide and probably are a person more likely to speed than people who don't use diffusers/jammers.
I do not apply this to users of passive detection equipment...
Tivster
Tivster said:
My stance on this is pretty familiar - although I make a conscious distinction between those devices which passively detect and those which actively interfere. The latter covers Jammers/Diffusers etc.
To me Jammers and Diffusers are used to prevent us doing our job. If you have and use such devices, IMO you have something to hide and probably are a person more likely to speed than people who don't use diffusers/jammers.
I do not apply this to users of passive detection equipment...
Tivster
Oooh! So, you make a distinction between a passive and an active device on the basis that an active device prevents you from doing the job?
Does not a passive device ALSO do the same thing?
It warns drivers of impending doom (burning forever in hell or suchlike
) of speed camera areas, where you ikkle munkeys are likely to be....does it not? I dont really see a distinction apart from the technicalities of the way they work.
Id concede that a jammer prevents you from getting an "instant" fix on the target vehicle, but, so does a passive device, in that it warns you well before youre in range of the speed measuring equipment.
As for "more likely to speed" because he uses a jammer...i dont see how. We all speed, all of us do, whether we have a jammer fitted or not, it makes little difference.
All that really counts is that we slow down in the areas you guys operate in, thereby being "safe" (point of contention in its own right
) but more importantly, not bombing thru a blackspot area, which surely is the whole idea of you guys being there. deltaf said:
My stance on this is pretty familiar - although I make a conscious distinction between those devices which passively detect and those which actively interfere. The latter covers Jammers/Diffusers etc.
To me Jammers and Diffusers are used to prevent us doing our job. If you have and use such devices, IMO you have something to hide and probably are a person more likely to speed than people who don't use diffusers/jammers.
I do not apply this to users of passive detection equipment...
Tivster
Oooh! So, you make a distinction between a passive and an active device on the basis that an active device prevents you from doing the job?
Does not a passive device ALSO do the same thing?
It warns drivers of impending doom (burning forever in hell or suchlike
I dont really see a distinction apart from the technicalities of the way they work.
Id concede that a jammer prevents you from getting an "instant" fix on the target vehicle, but, so does a passive device, in that it warns you well before youre in range of the speed measuring equipment.
As for "more likely to speed" because he uses a jammer...i dont see how. We all speed, all of us do, whether we have a jammer fitted or not, it makes little difference.
All that really counts is that we slow down in the areas you guys operate in, thereby being "safe" (point of contention in its own right
perhaps the point is, that with a detector, it tells you the camera is ahead, you hear the warning, check your speed and slow down if necessary.
One might be tempted (if foolish enough to put trust in electornic equipment
) with a jammer to just keep going through the speed trap as it can't fix on the car. Whilst that might be fine for the roads where the camera is a revenue gettter, but in those areas where the camera is put in an accident black spot, then you may be overly complacent and carry on through the speedtrap at x miles per hour putting your life at risk... Just a thought.
Exactly my point Buffalo.
DeltaF - you're right too, but i think that there is a clear distinction between the intended use of the two types of device. I've just upgraded from a Bel 980 to an Origin B2 which has the option to link directly to a laser defuser. I won't use one because....
Whilst prosecutions have so far failed to nail a diffuser user (alliteration - forgive me please) for a specific offence, there is a distinct possibility that this will happen - possibly using existing legislation. I personally won't take that risk and I think that others may not be aware of that risk or indeed may not care about the risk and these are the sort of drivers/riders who MAY be more likely to speed with the device used to aid detection prevention.
Tivster
>> Edited by Tivster on Wednesday 13th August 17:24
DeltaF - you're right too, but i think that there is a clear distinction between the intended use of the two types of device. I've just upgraded from a Bel 980 to an Origin B2 which has the option to link directly to a laser defuser. I won't use one because....
Whilst prosecutions have so far failed to nail a diffuser user (alliteration - forgive me please) for a specific offence, there is a distinct possibility that this will happen - possibly using existing legislation. I personally won't take that risk and I think that others may not be aware of that risk or indeed may not care about the risk and these are the sort of drivers/riders who MAY be more likely to speed with the device used to aid detection prevention.
Tivster
>> Edited by Tivster on Wednesday 13th August 17:24
Tivster said:
I've just upgraded from a Bel 980 to an Origin B2 which has the option to link directly to a laser defuser. I won't use one because....
I've just got one of those too. Always nice to have prior warning of dangerous bits of road.....
:rolleyes
And I wouldn't like to be the testcase for the laserblinder either.
I use both a laser diffuser and a radar detector.
Why? Well its like this officer()... The radar detector gives me fair warning of fixed intallations,(all supposedly at accident blackspots) so i drive accordingly. I use my eyes to look for the signs, for the cameras, for the lines.
I can tell near enough at a glance what type of camera and how its triggered nowadays, but i still slow down, even if i KNOW theres no camera installed. Hence, so far at least, no nasty nips or smacks (none of my making anyway).
The diffuser is a safeguard, just a backup, in case i come across a hidden talivan.
If they played fair, then thered be no need for such devices, now would there?
I came a cross one a few weeks ago out in the sticks, unmarked and flouting the guidelines. Until this kind of crap is stopped, i dont see why i should bend over and get shafted mate, its just not Cwicket!
Oh, i do admit i speed, yes i do, and i try and do it responsibly and safely. You have to maintain proper stopping distances, indicate correctly, observe other roadusers... lets face it, you dont last too long if you dont.
Anyway, have a
Why? Well its like this officer(
)... The radar detector gives me fair warning of fixed intallations,(all supposedly at accident blackspots) so i drive accordingly. I use my eyes to look for the signs, for the cameras, for the lines. I can tell near enough at a glance what type of camera and how its triggered nowadays, but i still slow down, even if i KNOW theres no camera installed. Hence, so far at least, no nasty nips or smacks (none of my making anyway).
The diffuser is a safeguard, just a backup, in case i come across a hidden talivan.
If they played fair, then thered be no need for such devices, now would there?
I came a cross one a few weeks ago out in the sticks, unmarked and flouting the guidelines. Until this kind of crap is stopped, i dont see why i should bend over and get shafted mate, its just not Cwicket!
Oh, i do admit i speed, yes i do, and i try and do it responsibly and safely. You have to maintain proper stopping distances, indicate correctly, observe other roadusers... lets face it, you dont last too long if you dont.
Anyway, have a
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